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Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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If using web search using textual tty interface was useful for something, I would want to do it via my existing terminal program, not via browser. But, is it useful for anything at all?

I think it has a pretty small market:

    $ :why
    Because Devdas uses vimperator with Google?? I don't think they mix well. Devdas, you should try this instead.

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Yeesh, the ignorance of the folks in those threads. Painful. Anyways, if someone can't get to non-v6 resources, they have bigger problems than not being able to use DDG. There is a single class of operator for whom v6 deployment actually makes sense, which is large-scale ISPs for whom CGNAT presents an onerous burden on their reporting/monitoring requirements to law enforcement. Everyone else is just rolling v6 out t…

Everyone else is just rolling v6 out to meet the requirement of a client (typically government) contract. I'm holding out for ipv8, where someone sensibly just slaps a 1. in front of ipv4 style addresses, which to stacks means route to old ipv4. Then we have all we need with an extra octlet. We could even reserve a bunch for off-planet communicates, eg 100. = moon, 101 = mars, etc. All existing tools, code, etc would…

One thing to consider is that when IPv6 was invented, there wasn't nearly as big a userbase on IPv4 as there is now. At that time a clean-slate approach made more sense than it does now.

But yes these days things are different. And not all its features imagined to be big have panned out that way (and to be fair, even IPv4 contains several features which are no longer in use).

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Yeesh, the ignorance of the folks in those threads. Painful. Anyways, if someone can't get to non-v6 resources, they have bigger problems than not being able to use DDG. There is a single class of operator for whom v6 deployment actually makes sense, which is large-scale ISPs for whom CGNAT presents an onerous burden on their reporting/monitoring requirements to law enforcement. Everyone else is just rolling v6 out t…

Home internet in Japan is IPv6 only. Usually you have to sign up for a separate NAT-like-thing that the ISP runs as well, sometimes for an additional charge.

Wow here in Spain it's the opposite. My provider (JazzTel, part of Orange) still does only IPv4. IPv6 isn't even available if I'd want it. Not that I do, really.. there's no need yet

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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post #48
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Didn't work for me so I followed the link to https://git.io/googler-no-results . It looks like it uses a screen scraper. That does not seem like a viable solution to me.

I'm a maintainer of googler (though I haven't put in much work for quite a while) and the author of the linked document. No, it doesn't use a screen scraper, and I don't know how you even got that idea.

Is this perhaps a semantics issue? The linked document mentions parsing HTML, and that layout updates can break it. How would you describe the way googler operates?

Edit: Would ”web scraping” be a more apt description?

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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post #48

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I'm a maintainer of googler (though I haven't put in much work for quite a while) and the author of the linked document. No, it doesn't use a screen scraper, and I don't know how you even got that idea.

Is this perhaps a semantics issue? The linked document mentions parsing HTML, and that layout updates can break it. How would you describe the way googler operates? Edit: Would ”web scraping” be a more apt description?

Yes, it's a scraper extracting results from HTML. Which is very different from a screen scraper...

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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For people that are looking for a nice search TUI, may I point you to Googler. It's made by the author of NNN and a couple other fantastic terminal tools. Highly recommend. It's amazing how clean you can make the interface https://github.com/jarun/googler Screenshot of Googler in action when it's nice and clean https://snid.es/2021OCT/YG4OXAlXg4INZWPe.png

Might be more apt to mention the same authors version of googler for duckduckgo, https://github.com/jarun/ddgr .

I was about to say, the main issues with the DDG view is that it's all formatted in a single colour. One colour for links and one for titles is so much better on the eyes! This is a great project!
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