DuckDuckGo as a TTY • Hacker News Board

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Post by dogecoinbase » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:24 AM UTC

boondaburrah wrote: post #20

dogecoinbase wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeesh, the ignorance of the folks in those threads. Painful. Anyways, if someone can't get to non-v6 resources, they have bigger problems than not being able to use DDG. There is a single class of operator for whom v6 deployment actually makes sense, which is large-scale ISPs for whom CGNAT presents an onerous burden on their reporting/monitoring requirements to law enforcement. Everyone else is just rolling v6 out t…

Home internet in Japan is IPv6 only. Usually you have to sign up for a separate NAT-like-thing that the ISP runs as well, sometimes for an additional charge.

Google puts IPv6 adoption rates in Japan slightly behind the US: https://www.google.com/intl/ja/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-...

And JPNIC recently discusses how v4 translation is still necessary: https://blog.nic.ad.jp/2021/6406/

I would be super interested to read more about 6to4 translation as an additional charge on residential service, if you have a link I could check out.

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Post by kiwijamo » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:28 AM UTC

hunter2_ wrote: post #19

When visiting this using Chrome for Android, how do I open the keyboard? Typically it's just a matter of giving focus to the input area, but not in this case.

I have the same problem with Firefox for Android.

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:43 AM UTC

throwaway984393 wrote: post #17

They were able to create a fake TTY for searching the web, but they still don't support IPv6. https://www.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/search/?q=ipv6&restrict_...

Is that surprising? A TTY can be built and shipped as a single component - no ISP changes, no revisiting your entire network model, no reviewing every single thing that touches TCP/IP directly (load balancers, logging, HTTP libraries). IPv6 is a big thing to add in comparison.

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Post by mlang23 » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:57 AM UTC

snide wrote: post #11

For people that are looking for a nice search TUI, may I point you to Googler. It's made by the author of NNN and a couple other fantastic terminal tools. Highly recommend. It's amazing how clean you can make the interface https://github.com/jarun/googler Screenshot of Googler in action when it's nice and clean https://snid.es/2021OCT/YG4OXAlXg4INZWPe.png

It looks like it doesnt respect $LINES (or something similar). On first try, the top 2 results scrolled off the screen.

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Post by mlang23 » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 5:59 AM UTC

As a diehard terminal user, I think this headline should interest me. However, I am assuming this is some sort of JavaScript perversion? Visiting the link with lynx gives an empty page. Can anyone explain whats going on there to a non-GUI user?

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Post by OJFord » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:21 AM UTC

mlang23 wrote: post #25

As a diehard terminal user, I think this headline should interest me. However, I am assuming this is some sort of JavaScript perversion? Visiting the link with lynx gives an empty page. Can anyone explain whats going on there to a non-GUI user?

Keyboard doesn't open on FF Android, so I can't use it (right now) either, but it seems to be a faux shell & TUI for searching DDG.

(I see green on black terminal aesthetic, $ prompt and a flashing cursor - banner text (in the 'shell') above explains I can (if the keyboard would open) run :help (or :send-feedback to tell them the keyboard doesn't w-- oh) which I assume would tell me how to query the search engine.)

Yeah, presumably JS if you can't load it. Though from what I can see without typing anything it could be done in CSS. (I suppose it's probably a SPA - results loaded in place without a page reload which, to be fair, would ruin the faux shell aesthetic.)

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Post by munch117 » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:21 AM UTC

s/tty/repl/g

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Post by beermonster » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:30 AM UTC

Also this[1] is nice for non-javascript interfacing with DDG.

https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/features/n...

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Post by mlang23 » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 6:30 AM UTC

OJFord wrote: post #26

mlang23 wrote: post #25

As a diehard terminal user, I think this headline should interest me. However, I am assuming this is some sort of JavaScript perversion? Visiting the link with lynx gives an empty page. Can anyone explain whats going on there to a non-GUI user?

Keyboard doesn't open on FF Android, so I can't use it (right now) either, but it seems to be a faux shell & TUI for searching DDG. (I see green on black terminal aesthetic, $ prompt and a flashing cursor - banner text (in the 'shell') above explains I can (if the keyboard would open) run :help (or :send-feedback to tell them the keyboard doesn't w-- oh) which I assume would tell me how to query the search engine.) Y…

Thanks for taking the time to explain what you see. This sort of confirms my initial suspicion. Weird.

Re: DuckDuckGo as a TTY

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Post by circularfoyers » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 7:03 AM UTC

snide wrote: post #11

For people that are looking for a nice search TUI, may I point you to Googler. It's made by the author of NNN and a couple other fantastic terminal tools. Highly recommend. It's amazing how clean you can make the interface https://github.com/jarun/googler Screenshot of Googler in action when it's nice and clean https://snid.es/2021OCT/YG4OXAlXg4INZWPe.png

Might be more apt to mention the same authors version of googler for duckduckgo, https://github.com/jarun/ddgr.