Does anyone have any data on benchmarks for the Risc-V cores? I wasn't able to find any. I'm specifically interested in the C906 (aka Allwinner D1 which exists as a dev board[0] for ~$120 ) and the C910 which is apparently multicore. I'd love to know how they compare to SiFive's offerings and similar class arm chips.
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#12Intel is gonna be in deep trouble in couple of years. They are the PowerPC of modern era. IDK what held them back from reimagining the architecture for less power hungry processors and tooling. With Mac mainstream switching to ARM and Microsoft doing something similar, I think within next 5 - 10 years ARM is gonna take over Intel architecture in general.
Given the current semiconductor shortages I don’t think Intel will have any trouble selling chips within the next couple years.
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#13Intel is gonna be in deep trouble in couple of years. They are the PowerPC of modern era. IDK what held them back from reimagining the architecture for less power hungry processors and tooling. With Mac mainstream switching to ARM and Microsoft doing something similar, I think within next 5 - 10 years ARM is gonna take over Intel architecture in general.
They've tried a lot of "reimagining." It never works. No one wants Intel on mobile, despite Intel's mobile chips being absolutely great when they were actually releasing them, and no one wants a genuinely high-performance chip if it means they have to make alterations to how their software is written.
I have a lot of criticisms of Intel, but held back from reimagining isn't quite a great one.
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#14Did anyone instantly go back to the memory of the Jack Ma & Elon Musk conference panel WTF? moment and think: No way Jack is running this company, at all.
Re: Alibaba Open Source XuanTie RISC-V Cores, Introduces In-House Armv9 Server Chip
#15Intel is gonna be in deep trouble in couple of years. They are the PowerPC of modern era. IDK what held them back from reimagining the architecture for less power hungry processors and tooling. With Mac mainstream switching to ARM and Microsoft doing something similar, I think within next 5 - 10 years ARM is gonna take over Intel architecture in general.
Given the current semiconductor shortages I don’t think Intel will have any trouble selling chips within the next couple years.
Sure... but what happens on the other side of these unusual market conditions?
Re: Alibaba Open Source XuanTie RISC-V Cores, Introduces In-House Armv9 Server Chip
#16Intel is gonna be in deep trouble in couple of years. They are the PowerPC of modern era. IDK what held them back from reimagining the architecture for less power hungry processors and tooling. With Mac mainstream switching to ARM and Microsoft doing something similar, I think within next 5 - 10 years ARM is gonna take over Intel architecture in general.
They've tried a lot of "reimagining." It never works. No one wants Intel on mobile, despite Intel's mobile chips being absolutely great when they were actually releasing them, and no one wants a genuinely high-performance chip if it means they have to make alterations to how their software is written. I have a lot of criticisms of Intel, but held back from reimagining isn't quite a great one.
When has intel reimagined products that have low power and low price? Intel has been notorious for having power hungry and overpriced stuff.
Re: Alibaba Open Source XuanTie RISC-V Cores, Introduces In-House Armv9 Server Chip
#17Intel is gonna be in deep trouble in couple of years. They are the PowerPC of modern era. IDK what held them back from reimagining the architecture for less power hungry processors and tooling. With Mac mainstream switching to ARM and Microsoft doing something similar, I think within next 5 - 10 years ARM is gonna take over Intel architecture in general.
They've tried a lot of "reimagining." It never works. No one wants Intel on mobile, despite Intel's mobile chips being absolutely great when they were actually releasing them, and no one wants a genuinely high-performance chip if it means they have to make alterations to how their software is written. I have a lot of criticisms of Intel, but held back from reimagining isn't quite a great one.
Their low power stuff was garbage.
And itanium went unsupported and was half baked.
Intel knew where their money makers were, x86 servers. Their attention and investment showed a lack of foresight, combined with their famous bloated engineering teams, is a story as old as time itself.
Re: Alibaba Open Source XuanTie RISC-V Cores, Introduces In-House Armv9 Server Chip
#18Intel is gonna be in deep trouble in couple of years. They are the PowerPC of modern era. IDK what held them back from reimagining the architecture for less power hungry processors and tooling. With Mac mainstream switching to ARM and Microsoft doing something similar, I think within next 5 - 10 years ARM is gonna take over Intel architecture in general.
I think alderlake is very promising. Big-small designed cpus, even on x86, seem like the way to go.
The way to go for what?
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#19Does anyone have any data on benchmarks for the Risc-V cores? I wasn't able to find any. I'm specifically interested in the C906 (aka Allwinner D1 which exists as a dev board[0] for ~$120 ) and the C910 which is apparently multicore. I'd love to know how they compare to SiFive's offerings and similar class arm chips. [0]: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002856721588.html
The Hot Chips presentation a year ago when the C910 was announced shows it comparable to ARM A73.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15991/hot-chips-2020-live-blo...
I should have one of the eval boards in mid November and I'll be able to do real-word tests then.
The C906 is a little bit faster than a Raspberry Pi Zero, except it has a fairly useful vector unit which can double or triple the speed of many things.
I published memcpy and strcpy benchmarks on Nezha six months ago:
https://hoult.org/d1_memcpy.txt https://hoult.org/d1_strcpy.txt
I also have results for it in my primes benchmark. It beats out a U54 at the same clock speed and is not far off the higher clocked A53 in a Pi 3.
The current "Nezha" board at $99 is obviously expensive compared to a Pi Zero. SiPeed are promising a board with with same D1 SoC with 512 MB RAM for under $20 within the next month.
https://twitter.com/SipeedIO/status/1443486484112183298
The C906 is very comparable to SiFive U54 (as in the HiFive Unleashed, and the Microsemi "Icicle" FPGA) except it has a vector unit and a much better DRAM interface than the FU540 had. But the D1 is only single core.
The C910 is comparable to the SiFive U84, which has not yet been seen in public in actual silicon.