I couldn't debug the code because of my name

Post by 10000truths » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 10:49 PM UTC

jltsiren wrote: post #130

Dannymetconan wrote: post #117

I can very much relate to this but also have very little sympathy here. I have a special character in my name, an apostrophe, and it causes trouble regularly online and with tooling. A number of years ago I decided just to never use it when it came to anything to do with technical work be it email, logins or usernames. Unicode characters are a pain to deal with and I have suffered from it first hand trying to handle…

My legal last name is "Sirén". When I was younger, I almost always used "Siren", because it was easier to type. Then, ~15 years ago, I started noticing that American websites sometimes rejected it, because they considered it inappropriate. Sometimes "Sirén" would work, sometimes it worked but caused minor annoyances, and sometimes it would not work for technical reasons. Both versions work most of the time these days…

Post by nightpool » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 10:51 PM UTC

geofft wrote: post #138

mjevans wrote: post #116

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This is exactly why I hate the way Python3 handles Unicode. EVERY language should _try_ to handle Unicode such that if a data sequence were valid before it remains valid after. NONE should ever FORCE validation, since sometimes, like in the article's case, the correct answer is GIGO. Just pass it through and hope it continues to work. Sometimes the error is trying to enforce that validation.

Python 3 usually handles this correctly, and I'm a little bit confused what's going on in the article, exactly. For UNIX path names (and other OS data like environment variables), Python uses the "surrogateescape" error handling method, which does exactly what you ask. Any byte sequence can be converted to a string. If it decodes as valid UTF-8, it will do that. If it hits a byte that does not decode as valid UTF-8 (…

Post by lostgame » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 10:57 PM UTC

irrational wrote: post #83

sschueller wrote: post #31

Many years ago I could not access the apple developer panel because of the umlaut in my last name. It was eventually fixed but I was quite surprised that such a large company would run into such a basic issue.

>such a large company would run into such a basic issue Every large company is just a conglomeration of smaller departments. Each department had individual contributors. Some individual contributor in that department wrote the code and if nobody else is their department caught it, nobody else at the large company would have caught it since they have their own work to consider and don't have time to look at other peop…

Post by irrational » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 11:01 PM UTC

lostgame wrote: post #145

irrational wrote: post #83

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>such a large company would run into such a basic issue Every large company is just a conglomeration of smaller departments. Each department had individual contributors. Some individual contributor in that department wrote the code and if nobody else is their department caught it, nobody else at the large company would have caught it since they have their own work to consider and don't have time to look at other peop…

I think what OP means is that a company so large should have the resources to test such edge cases.

Post by q3k » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 11:07 PM UTC

gerdesj wrote: post #142

q3k wrote: post #132

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'W' in Polish is already used, but for a different sound - it's pronounced like the English 'v'. 'V' in turn is not present the Polish alphabet (in the sense of it not being present in words of Polish origin). If you wanna change that, you might as well change the entire writing system of the language, eg. to be more in line with some other, more common writing system (ie. other latin alphabets or the cyrillic alphab…

"If you wanna change". I think we have found the disconnect: you quite happily use a word like "wanna" which is nonsense in English. Its allowed because it is understandable. Wanna is "want to". Ooh, "gonna": That'll be "going to". What's gonna to you is l bar for me or vice versa or something 8)