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Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Post by babypuncher » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:53 PM UTC

drcode wrote: post #32

criddell wrote: post #19

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So you're saying it's only a matter of time before Windows, which is 35 years old, might become a walled garden?

It is a walled garden since its inception. There is no package manager for building an open package ecosystem, as exists on other OSes.

I think that is a matter of perspective. Operating systems wholly reliant on package managers are arguably walled gardens, since acquiring and running software that only exists outside the official repos can be a hassle.

But I don't think most people mean either of these things when they say "walled garden". They are referring to ecosystems where the user's only choice for installing apps is an app store owned and maintained by the OS vendor.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Post by wvenable » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:54 PM UTC

SahAssar wrote: post #57

wvenable wrote: post #49

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The Windows Store would always be from scratch for Android apps. This is just adding the apps from the Amazon store into the Windows Store.

What would be the reason to use android apps on windows besides them not being available on windows? What feature could an android app running on windows do that a windows application couldn't do?

The only reason to run Android apps on Windows is because there aren't native Windows versions of these applications.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Post by cturtle » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:54 PM UTC

unicornporn wrote: post #27

symlinkk wrote: post #26

What do people use features like this for?

Was just about to ask the same question. I can't come up with a single Android app I'd like to run on desktop. Is it just an app development thing?

Maybe Venmo since there is no desktop/web client. It frustrates me that Venmo has become so popular in my circles when it’s smartphone-only. I have a smartphone so I’ll keep using it there, but I could imagine some might appreciate the option to run apps like Venmo on a PC.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Post by neogodless » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:54 PM UTC

sz4kerto wrote: post #39

neogodless wrote: post #33

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> The Windows Subsystem for Android is available across the full spectrum of Windows processor types (AMD, Intel, and Qualcomm). But scroll down to see "Feature-specific requirements for Windows 11" > Apps available at Amazon Appstore. Additional requirements apply, including 8 GB of RAM, a solid-state drive (SSD), and a supported processor (Intel® Core™ i3 8th Generation, AMD Ryzen™ 3000, Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 8c, o…

Those are just normal Windows 11 requirements, related to TPM and other hardware features.

Scroll down.

> Windows Subsystem for Android™

You can install Windows 11 on lower requirements. But you might not be able to run Android apps.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Post by teddyfrozevelt » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:56 PM UTC

jodrellblank wrote: post #59

ajvs wrote: post #17

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Unfortunately another of their strength lies in the 3rd part: "extinguish". It's only a matter of time before their recent software of WSL, GitHub and Android on Windows becomes yet another walled garden.

How does "someone can install Linux in a VM on Windows"[1] translate into "ajvs won't be able to use Linux anymore"? I don't see how you can make such a claim with a straight face. [1] WSL is based on Hyper-V virtual machines.

They're already doing it with WSL specific features such as the DirectX driver.

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directx-heart-linux/

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Post by encryptluks2 » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:58 PM UTC

> Windows is the most open platform on the planet for creators.

Gaslighting 101

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Post by xeromal » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 9:59 PM UTC

doublerebel wrote: post #46

Requires use of Hyper-V... does this mean they will bring Hyper-V to Home edition? Seems like many users who would run Android apps are likely to crossover with the group of users who are not going to upgrade their Windows license to Pro or better. Windows Subsystem for Android™... runs in a Hyper-V Virtual Machine, like the Windows Subsystem for Linux.

Interestingly, I don't see an entry for it in hyper-v

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Post by encryptluks2 » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 10:02 PM UTC

TinkersW wrote: post #35

drcode wrote: post #32

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It is a walled garden since its inception. There is no package manager for building an open package ecosystem, as exists on other OSes.

I'd say the OS, rather than a language, having a package manager is more of a walled garden..

No it isn't. You can still install and even build packages using the manifest separately. It is just convenience, but doesn't prevent you from installing them yourself.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Post by Kye » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 10:04 PM UTC

treesknees wrote: post #42

criddell wrote: post #38

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Windows has essentially always been free. There have been something like two billion PCs sold running Windows. The number of people who purchased a non-OEM copy is relatively small.

But I believe upgrades have always been an extra purchase until Windows 8? Nowadays it's free OS, free upgrades to get you in the door and buy their services (M365 for Microsoft, iCloud/apps for Apple.)

I know at least Windows ME and Windows 98 SE came in boxes.

Re: Android Apps on Windows 11

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Post by nikanj » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

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