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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by magicalist »

BrendanEich wrote: post #493
magicalist wrote: post #482

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Brendan Eich was CEO of Mozilla and they were flying high flying high for all eleven of those days or just some of them? :P > And Eich single-handedly created the only other viable browser in the market starting from scratch [market wise, not technology wise]. This is a bizarre re-writing of the history of Mozilla. Brendan Eich was obviously very important but he definitely wasn't alone, their corporate owner at th…

I was involved with the mozilla/browser team from the start, we shared an irc channel and knew how to use it to take down Netscape inside AOL and then restart the browser market. Who are you and where were you inside Netscape then? Or are you just lying about me?

> Or are you just lying about me?

Leaving aside the whole "please don't fulminate" thing, you're going to have to be specific about which part is incorrect. Is it just the "he wasn't originally involved in Firefox when it started" word choice and you'd like that amended to "he didn't start Firefox (though was aware of it and soon incorporated it into Mozilla's strategic plans)"?

The righteous demand for truth would be a bit more inspiring if you'd similarly correct the GP for "lying" about you being the one true Mozillian, though.

edit: also, rereading my original post, I'm sorry if the first line reads as mean spirited. The ":P" was meant for the poster's inconsistent recollection of events.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by busymom0 »

bgarbiak wrote: post #495
busymom0 wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He’s not anti-vax. People need to stop throwing labels around. It’s equivalent to calling people the 4 letter n word. He’s said repeatedly that he doesn’t see the point of young fit and healthy people getting the Covid “vaccine”. And especially not for kids. If you are old or have medical conditions or obese, then it might help you. The current shots are merely a potential severe symptom mitigator. Being opposed to a…

> It’s equivalent to calling people the 4 letter n word. No, it's absolutely different thing. One is derogative racial slur, carrying a baggage of slavery, violence, rapes, and systemic injustice that's present in the society to this day; and the other one is a description of people who choose to ignore science and are willing to risk life of others basing on their anecdotal evidence.

I said "4 letter". You are confusing it with another unrelated word.

> who choose to ignore science and are willing to risk life of others basing on their anecdotal evidence

You clearly did not read the rest of my comment other than the first line which you also read incorrectly. And I didn't mention a single anecdotal thing in my comment so not sure what that's all about. So it seems like you are commenting for a specific agenda.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by skyfaller »

hunterb123 wrote: post #403
NoGravitas wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brave is just Chromium with a cryptocurrency scam bolted on to it. I'm unhappy with Firefox's ad-related changes recently, but Brave is definitely not an option. If it came to it, I'd use a WebKit browser — objectively worse, but not clearly compromised.

Brave is Chromium with more web features and more privacy and crypto stuff that is turned off by default. It has Web Torrents, IPFS, Tor, built-in ad blocking, etc. I just don't understand how someone can be "mad" at a feature that is turned off by default, especially when most browsers ship with literal spyware turned on.

For the record, IPFS also has ties to cryptocurrency with Filecoin. I have no intention of using Brave or IPFS for that reason, if I can avoid it.

I really think most people don't understand how destructive cryptocurrency is, in multiple ways.

If you don't care about the energy use causing greenhouse gas emissions, how about electronic waste? https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-electronic-waste-monitor/

How about the impact on any service that offers free CPU cycles, such as continuous integration systems used by open source projects? https://drewdevault.com/2021/04/26/Cryptocurrency-is-a-disas...

How about the impact on critical infrastructure such as hospitals due to ransomware? https://www.stephendiehl.com/blog/ransomware.html

Cryptocurrency isn't just a disaster, it's several disasters bundled together. Anyone working with it in any way, anyone who has a stake in cryptocurrency, has been compromised, and can no longer be trusted, just as your neighbor who is trying to sell you on their multilevel marketing scheme can no longer be trusted. (Did they invite you to dinner? Oh, surprise, it's just to sell you on their MLM again.) They are ignoring multiple dire ethical problems as they sell their relationship with you for funny money.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by jonathansampson »

zestyping wrote: post #18

Does anyone else find the font choice in Brave Search to be an obstacle for them? I just find it so hard to read. I've set Brave as the default search in my browser (Chrome) in an attempt to give less of my traffic to Google, but most of the time I just get frustrated trying to read the search results and repeat the query in Google Search. I know it's ridiculous that I haven't just switched back to Google. I still wa…

Thank you for the feedback, Zestyping. If you wouldn't mind, can you tell me more about what makes the text hard to read? Is it the size, font-face, or color (or a combination of these)?

Pro tip: If you aren't happy with the search results offered in Brave Search, and would prefer Google instead, perform the same search but with !g added to the end

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by jonathansampson »

halfeatenpie wrote: post #364

How decent is Brave as a browser? I've been very hesitant on it as a primary browser due to them starting up their own cryptocurrency (BAT), adding automatic affiliate cryptocurrency links in pages, and a history of serving their own ads on top of others.

We launched tipping with Bitcoin, but had to pivot when network fees and congestion were unbearable (our users would buy $5 at a time, pay nearly as much in fees, and wait for what seemed like an eternity to receive their funds). BAT (ERC-20) offered immediate relief.

Brave has never added affiliate links into pages. Brave has never served its own ads on top of others'.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by phatfish »

ajvs wrote: post #470
mehphp wrote: post #447

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His anti-vaccination stance (specific to coronavirus, I don't know if he's anti-vax in general). He pushes ivermectin as a valid alternative to the vaccines when the data does not currently back that up.

He's not an anti-vaxxer. He is pro-vaccine for all other illnesses. He's also said he doesn't care if you choose to take it, just don't mandate it For all people when the science is not clear about the cost:benefit ratio for certain populations such as children. That being against mandating these emergency experimental COVID-19 vaccines for all individuals is being conflated as being an "anti-vaxxer" shows how much p…

Rogan says whatever it takes to keep his core audience on board, when he isn't just parroting the opinion of the last person he spoke to.

His core audience are conspiracy theorists from his early days, which has a very big overlap with full on anti-vaxers.

It wouldn't surprise me if he still believed the moon landings were faked, he just realises you don't get million plus listens and a Spotify deal making that sort of thing public.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by jonathansampson »

gilrain wrote: post #313
leoxv wrote: post #295

Just tried it out. Looks nice (except for that unremovable crypto button on the toolbar), but I need SpeechSynthesis (TTS) support. Will stay with FF and use MS Edge for its excellent TTS. The search engine is pretty weak judging from my initial queries.

The crypto button is removable. Have a look through your settings.

Specifically, brave://settings/?search=hide+brave+rewards+button

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by KennyBlanken »

bgarbiak wrote: post #495
busymom0 wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He’s not anti-vax. People need to stop throwing labels around. It’s equivalent to calling people the 4 letter n word. He’s said repeatedly that he doesn’t see the point of young fit and healthy people getting the Covid “vaccine”. And especially not for kids. If you are old or have medical conditions or obese, then it might help you. The current shots are merely a potential severe symptom mitigator. Being opposed to a…

> It’s equivalent to calling people the 4 letter n word. No, it's absolutely different thing. One is derogative racial slur, carrying a baggage of slavery, violence, rapes, and systemic injustice that's present in the society to this day; and the other one is a description of people who choose to ignore science and are willing to risk life of others basing on their anecdotal evidence.

Well put.

But I wouldn't waste much more time replying to this person, because they were recently asking HN for advice on how to use software to write a lawsuit they're self-litigating. Fifty bucks says it's some "MUH FREEDUHM" anti-mask/vaccine requirement lawsuit.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28440576

You're not changing their mind on something like this.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by jonathansampson »

howolduis wrote: post #462

are you still redirecting your users to referral links without their consent to make money in cryptocurrencies?

Brave never redirected users to referral links. We did have a bit of mistaken behavior in the browser's suggestion list. We offered affiliate codes as a way to support Brave development. If a user typed in a matching search term (e.g. Binance), our suggestion list would offer the affiliate link for the Binance site. This feature was intended for search input, but mistakenly matched fully-qualified URLs too (e.g. binance.us). We shipped a fix quickly, and turned the feature off by default. You can read more about that here: https://brave.com/referral-codes-in-suggested-sites/.
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