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Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Anyone know the score for Intel 12th gen Alder Lake?

1834 ST / 17370 MT [1] But that's also for something which has a TDP of 125W [2], unsure if that's the right number for a mobile chip? Also no clue what M1 Max's TDP is either. [1] https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/9510991 [2] https://cpu-benchmark.org/cpu/intel-core-i9-12900k/

The Intel CPU is pretty underwhelming. It has twice the number of high performance cores (16 vs 8) but is only 37% faster for multi-core tasks.

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Not when building large software projects.

What compiler could even make use of 10 cores? Most build processes I've run can't even fully utilize the 4 cores.

Xcode has no issues taking advantage of all cores.

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As cool as that would be, why would they? I mean what do they have to gain from it? Maybe a few more Linux users will buy MacBook's but not enough to impact their bottom line. Plus those users wouldn't be part of the Apple ecosystem and at least since the iPod Apple's goal has been bringing you into the ecosystem.

Apple could gain some trust and goodwill from the technical user base they have been alienating for 10 years

shrug doesn't look like they need it. As long as they keep churning out machines and devices that make people's wallets reflexively open, they don't have to pander to the tiny minorities...

Not a particularly nice situation to be in, if you're not in the Apple ecosystem, but there's the world we live in, and the world we wish it to be. Only sometimes do those worlds overlap.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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As cool as that would be, why would they? I mean what do they have to gain from it? Maybe a few more Linux users will buy MacBook's but not enough to impact their bottom line. Plus those users wouldn't be part of the Apple ecosystem and at least since the iPod Apple's goal has been bringing you into the ecosystem.

Apple could gain some trust and goodwill from the technical user base they have been alienating for 10 years

I bet the number of people within the technical user base for whom the lack of linux support is a deal-breaker is significantly smaller than the number of people who don't care.

So while it's a nice boost in goodwill, it's probably small enough for Apple to safely ignore.

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I'm in the situation where I really want to pre-order a 14", but I have no idea if going with the base model would be a mistake. Would upgrading to 32GB RAM make Xcode faster? Or would it be a waste of $400?

Ram is ram. Don’t fall for marketing hype and think M1 means you need less ram. If you think you need it, you still need it on M1… and I say that as someone who owns an M1 Mac.

Yes - I wish people would stop implying that the M1 magically doubles RAM and other such nonsense. I found the same. I have a game that requires at least 32GB (Cities:Skylines - mainly because of my self inflicted steam workshop asset addiction) and ended up returning the Air to wait for the next round. Decided to go all out - have a 16" 64GB M1 Max with 2TB of storage on the way.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Where is the graphics test? The M1 Max versus an NVIDIA 3080 or similar?

In the keynote Apple said the M1 Max should be comparable to the performance of an RTX 3080 Laptop (the footnote on the graph specified the comparison was against an MSI GE76 Raider 11UH-053), which is still quite a bit below the desktop 3080.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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I have seen far too many people making comments on MacPro "Pro" Chip.

A hypothetical 32 Core CPU and 64 Core GPU is about the max Apple could make in terms of die size reticle limit without going chiplet and TDP limit without some exotic cooling solution. Which means you cant have some imaginary 64 Core CPU and 128 Core GPU.

We can now finally have a Mac Cube, where the vast majority of the Cube will simply be a heat sink and it will still be faster than current Intel Mac Pro. I think this chip makes most sense with the A16 design on 4nm next year [1].

Interesting question would be memory, current Mac Pro support 1.5TB. A 16 Channel DDR5 would be required to feed the GPU, but that also means minimum memory on Mac Pro would be 128GB at 8GB per DIMM. One could use HBM on package, but that doesn't provide ECC Memory protection.

[1] TSMC 3nm has been postponed in case anyone not paying attention, so the whole roadmap has been shifted by a year. If this still doesn't keep those repeating Moore's law has not died yet I dont know what will.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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But does it support running x86 Docker images using hardware emulation?

This is what's holding me off buying one since I don't know whether to get 16 GB RAM (if it doesn't work) or 32 GB RAM (if it does work).

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. For years I worked* on an Ubuntu desktop machine I built myself. Early this year I switched to a brand new M1 mini and this this is slower and less reliable than the thing I built myself that runs Ubuntu. My Ubuntu machine had a few little issues every no and then. My Mini has weird bugs all the time. e.g. Green Screen Crashes when I have…

What are the specs on your Ubuntu machine?

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Where is the graphics test? The M1 Max versus an NVIDIA 3080 or similar?

I'm waiting to be corrected by someone who knows GPU architecture better than me but as far as I can tell the synthetic benchmarks can trade blows with a 3070 or 80 (mobile), but the actual gaming performance isn't going to be as rosy. Also recall that very few games needing that performance actually work on MacOS

"Also recall that very few games needing that performance actually work on MacOS"

But many Windows games do run under Crossover (a commercial wrap of WINE - well worth the measly licensing fee for seamless ease of use to me) or the Windows 10 ARM beta in Parallels. I got so many games to run on my M1 MacBook Air I ended up returning it to wait for the next round that could take more RAM. I'm very, very happy I waited for these and I fully expect it will replace my Windows gaming machine too.

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