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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by soundnote »

smoldesu wrote: post #5

Great, now I can accumulate my $.05 worth of monthly BAT a little faster! Edit: I expected the YC crowd to pick up on Palantir puppets a bit faster. I'll gladly burn karma to get the word out though.

The point of BAT is not to get money for yourself, but to be able to tip creators. Individual ad viewers aren't terribly valuable (and Brave ads not being evil makes them less valuable), and only matter as a mass. You'll get a bit of pocket money, but as they aggregate on creators' end, that can compensate for losing revenue from evil ads getting blocked.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by magicalist »

sam_goody wrote: post #240
skinkestek wrote: post #176

I'm actually tempted to start using Brave. I'm still holding out with Firefox despite Mozilla trying very hard to get rid of us (to the point where the thought has struck me more than once if the current CEO of Mozilla is in the pocket of Google). If at some point the last competing mainstream browser engine is gone I'll probably go for Brave and I might start testing it this week.

Well, you know, Brendan Eich was CEO of Mozilla and they were flying high. Then he got cancelled, and with it was cancelled the dream of having a real platform that can compete with Google. (Brave, with all of its advantages, is still a fork of Chrome and in that way promotes the Chrome monopoly.) Since then, the new CEO of Mozilla has made herself a lot of money, and she seems perfectly happy to destroy the long ter…

> Brendan Eich was CEO of Mozilla and they were flying high

flying high for all eleven of those days or just some of them? :P

> And Eich single-handedly created the only other viable browser in the market starting from scratch [market wise, not technology wise].

This is a bizarre re-writing of the history of Mozilla. Brendan Eich was obviously very important but he definitely wasn't alone, their corporate owner at the start was AOL, then a gigantic company, and he wasn't originally involved in Firefox when it started, it was a rebellious offshoot from the rest of Mozilla's large number of existing products, some dating back to the Netscape days.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by [deleted] »

mrtksn wrote: post #64
DeathArrow wrote: post #38

Google used to be good at one point in time. Now its search results aren't very relevant, it returns what it thinks it should interest you, not what you've actually searched for. It doesn't matter if you do a verbatim search, it will still try to be smart and use alternative terms.

Every NLP AI is like that, it’s like trying to make a mentally challenged person do something for you and you have to correct them for something extremely simple and it is frustrating. Yes, Google, I did not type North Korea DHL by accident. I really mean the odd one because I’m curious if they have DHL but I really don’t feel like explaining it to you. Could you please simply don’t assume stuff by default? I appreci…

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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by smoldesu »

soundnote wrote: post #481
smoldesu wrote: post #5

Great, now I can accumulate my $.05 worth of monthly BAT a little faster! Edit: I expected the YC crowd to pick up on Palantir puppets a bit faster. I'll gladly burn karma to get the word out though.

The point of BAT is not to get money for yourself, but to be able to tip creators. Individual ad viewers aren't terribly valuable (and Brave ads not being evil makes them less valuable), and only matter as a mass. You'll get a bit of pocket money, but as they aggregate on creators' end, that can compensate for losing revenue from evil ads getting blocked.

The purpose of BAT is funding Brave development, which is why Brendan Eich personally claims 30% of the currency ever minted. It's a joke along the same lines as Tether or Bingus Token in the world of DeFi.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by true_religion »

nr2x wrote: post #430
hairofadog wrote: post #423

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yelp, pinterest, w3schools

Prior to mdn w3schools was a decent way to quickly find info on random HTML tags. Not sure why it gets so much hate.

w3schools has its place but it’s usually the top result when I’m never looking for it.

Once it was useful. But now I memorized all the information there so it’s not interesting.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by BrendanEich »

amelius wrote: post #252
eloisius wrote: post #7

I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…

> I really wish a search engine would empower me to provide a URL ban list that gets applied server-side instead of filtering on the front end (if anything). The irony is that Google wants all our information "to improve our user experience", except they don't want our ban lists.

Goggles is coming. https://brave.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/goggles.pdf

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by 5560675260 »

soundnote wrote: post #434
5560675260 wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For browser biggest UI difference is tabs - they squeeze instead of scrolling. There are no plugins that can create a proper sidebar, but out of the box you can organise them into foldable groups. Search results are noticeably better, especially for non-english and location-specific results. What's worse is image search - unlike with text you tend to get only 2-3 good, relevant results, everything else is only somewh…

Stock Chrome has a flag that activates a combined two-tab reading list + bookmarks sidebar. Brave has the same flag, but for some reason the sidebar didn't list bookmarks the last time I tried. There are actually flags for enabling tab scrolling if you want, and tab squeeze is also adjustable via flags.

Thanks, this really helped with a major pain point I had with tab management in Brave.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by coldpie »

pmurt7 wrote: post #235
skinkestek wrote: post #176

I'm actually tempted to start using Brave. I'm still holding out with Firefox despite Mozilla trying very hard to get rid of us (to the point where the thought has struck me more than once if the current CEO of Mozilla is in the pocket of Google). If at some point the last competing mainstream browser engine is gone I'll probably go for Brave and I might start testing it this week.

Mitchell Baker (Mozilla CEO) makes $3 million a year, and Mozilla asks you to donate "to help a nonprofit organization". "On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%. When asked about her salary she stated "I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit…

How much do CEOs at similarly sized tech corporations get paid? It's fine to say you dislike the current CEO's performance, but I don't see how her compensation is relevant without other datapoints to compare to.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by coldpie »

pmurt7 wrote: post #449
soundnote wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Importantly: The donations go to Mozilla Foundation, not to its for-profit subsidiary Mozilla Corp. MozCorp is who develop Firefox, the Foundation focuses more on political activism. If you want to help fund the people developing Firefox, one of the Corporation's paid products is the place to send your money.

Why is Mozilla Foundation doing political activism? Is it just some money-grabbing scheme or what? Mitchell Baker's blog: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/author/mitchellmozillacom/ Not a single word about Firefox, just some far-left propaganda about racial justice, empowered women in tech, Trump bad, and so.

> Why is Mozilla Foundation doing political activism?

At least partly because people like me pay them to. I like the work the Moz foundation does and I'm happy to contribute to it with donations.

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