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Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Wow does much better than Geekbench's prior top processor ( https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks ) the Intel Core i9-11900K ( https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i9-11900... ). 10,997 for Intel i9 vs 12,693 for M1 Max

I really wonder how a single z/Architecture core would fare on this benchmark, though I imagine it's never been ported

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Not when building large software projects.

What compiler could even make use of 10 cores? Most build processes I've run can't even fully utilize the 4 cores.

Compilers typically don't use multiple cores, but the build system that invokes them do, by invoking them in parallel. Modern build systems will typically invoke commands for 1 target per core, which means that on my system for example, building my software uses all 16 cores more or less until the final steps of the process.

The speed record for building my software is held by a system with over 1k cores (a couple of seconds, compared to multiple minutes on a mid-size Threadripper).

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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16GB of RAM seems so low in 2021. OTOH, hard drives are so fast on these things that maybe 16 is good enough with the SSD as overflow. I ended up shelling out the extra $400 for 32GB, but didn't feel great about it!

On the other hand I've been running 16GB of ram for a while and I can't conceive of a reason why I would need more. 32GB seems like overkill. What would you do with all of that ram? Open more tabs?

Looking at activity monitor, I'm currently using ~19GB, doing nothing special (IntelliJ, 15 chrome tabs, Spotify, Slack). Docker Desktop was using 8GB before I killed it. And this is on an Intel Mac so it doesn't include GPU memory usage I believe, which is shared in M1 Macs.

This likely isn't a perfect metric, if I were closer to the limit I think MacOS would get more aggressive about compression and offloading stuff to disk but still.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Anyone know the score for Intel 12th gen Alder Lake?

1834 ST / 17370 MT [1] But that's also for something which has a TDP of 125W [2], unsure if that's the right number for a mobile chip? Also no clue what M1 Max's TDP is either. [1] https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/9510991 [2] https://cpu-benchmark.org/cpu/intel-core-i9-12900k/

M1 Max TDP will be around 30-40 watt for the CPU cluster and 50-60 watt for the GPU cluster. Note that unlike x86 CPUs (which can draw far more than their TDP for brief periods of time), this is maximal power usage of the chip.

M1 needs about 5W to reach those signs-core scores, Tiger Lake needs 20W

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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That's a Geekbench v4 score, which isn't comparable to a Geekbench v5 score. You can see the same laptop on Geekbench v5 here, where it scores much, much lower than the M1: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10506812

For those that can't load and are curious, the M1 Max scores about 2x the Intel Core i7-11800H in the Dell laptop on both single core and multi core scores.

I don't think that was a good sample, most of the XPS 15's I see have a much higher single thread score, almost double the one linked above:

https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10491562

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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No, the Max has twice the memory bandwidth as well - 200GB/s vs 400 GB/s, which will have a big impact on anything memory bound.

How much and on what is the question. I'm not in the market for a laptop, so I can wait and see. That said, if Apple releases a MacMini M1 Max, I'll probably buy it.

Yeah, I would've already ordered a MaxMini if it existed. Maybe next year.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. For years I worked* on an Ubuntu desktop machine I built myself. Early this year I switched to a brand new M1 mini and this this is slower and less reliable than the thing I built myself that runs Ubuntu. My Ubuntu machine had a few little issues every no and then. My Mini has weird bugs all the time. e.g. Green Screen Crashes when I have…

Many folks are comparing it to previous Macs with macOS, not PCs nor other distros.

If you have an Intel Mac next to it, there's a clear noticeable difference assuming macOS is on it.

If you put W10 on the Intel Mac, it is much faster than macOS on it (from my own experience). If we could run W10 or Linux on M1, it will be much faster than Intel Mac.

Another example, Windows 10/11 on ARM in Parallels on my MBA m1 is much faster than Surface Pro X, a MS-tuned/customized device.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Should be the same as the difference between the max and the pro lies in the GPU core count.

No, the Max has twice the memory bandwidth as well - 200GB/s vs 400 GB/s, which will have a big impact on anything memory bound.

We have to see how much it matters in practice, since the M1 Max has roughly the same single threaded score as the M1.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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One big thing to consider is that this is just the first m1 Max Geekbench score, compared against the world's greatest 11900Ks. Most 11900K's are nowhere near the levels of the top preforming one. Once Apple starts shipping M1 Max in volume, and as TSMC yields get better, you will see "golden chips" slowly start to score even higher than this one.

Golden chips?

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Not when building large software projects.

What compiler could even make use of 10 cores? Most build processes I've run can't even fully utilize the 4 cores.

Rust (Cargo) does, and always wants more.
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