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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by soundnote »

Whitespace wrote: post #358
bodge5000 wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"...That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit to." Can anyone explain what this actually means? It sounds like she's saying that taking a lower pay by 5x is too much to ask of her, but then "people and their families" doesn't make any sense, because its 1 person and 1 family. Thats not even getting into how true is may or may not be, or how its still a lot of money overall, even if its not…

I read it as, "that's too big a discount to ask [qualified CEO candidates] and their families to commit to." In other words: good luck finding a qualified person to run Mozilla.

It's ironic that they had one and ousted him.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by soundnote »

pmurt7 wrote: post #235
skinkestek wrote: post #176

I'm actually tempted to start using Brave. I'm still holding out with Firefox despite Mozilla trying very hard to get rid of us (to the point where the thought has struck me more than once if the current CEO of Mozilla is in the pocket of Google). If at some point the last competing mainstream browser engine is gone I'll probably go for Brave and I might start testing it this week.

Mitchell Baker (Mozilla CEO) makes $3 million a year, and Mozilla asks you to donate "to help a nonprofit organization". "On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%. When asked about her salary she stated "I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit…

Importantly: The donations go to Mozilla Foundation, not to its for-profit subsidiary Mozilla Corp. MozCorp is who develop Firefox, the Foundation focuses more on political activism. If you want to help fund the people developing Firefox, one of the Corporation's paid products is the place to send your money.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by ajvs »

mminer237 wrote: post #338
ajvs wrote: post #319

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Joe Rogan also commented on this cover-up a few days ago: > "Look, if I wanted to find specific cases about people who died from vaccine-related injuries, I had to go to Duck Duck Go. I wasn’t finding them on Google,” Rogan urged. [1] https://summit.news/2021/10/19/video-joe-rogan-accuses-googl...

I can find info about vaccine-related injuries fine on Google. It's actually easier than on DDG: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=covid+vaccine-related+injuries https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+vaccine-related+injuri... I'm assuming he's just upset that blogspam that inanely conflates VAERS with evidence of injuries actually related to COVID vaccines shows up higher on DDG because that reinforces his false presuppositi…

He said "I'm looking for very specific people and very specific cases" in the following sentence. He's not referring to generic anecdotes.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by stOneskull »

drcongo wrote: post #182
eloisius wrote: post #7

I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…

I filled in the beta signup form for Kagi search [0] the other day and one of the questions was along the lines of "What must-have feature do you need in a new search engine?", and my answer was the ability to blacklist these spam sites for the exact same reasons. The major search engines are becoming close to useless. [0] https://kagi.com

my answer was to rank sites higher the less ads they have

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by mehphp »

JohnWhigham wrote: post #399
mehphp wrote: post #375

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You don't think it's dangerous for someone with a platform like Rogan has to spread misinformation? That's what I'm referring to.

No I think it's more dangerous when wide-reaching platforms like CNN spread misinformation about him and are completely unapologetic about it [0]. The most Joe Rogan has done regarding "misinformation" is telling people they should not get the vaccine and discussing vaccine side effects that, while yes they are not great in number, for every other platform it's a taboo topic for some weird reason. [0] https://www.you…

> The most Joe Rogan has done regarding "misinformation" is telling people they should not get the vaccine

I'm baffled by this comment and how that alone isn't concerning to you. All the experts say the vaccine is safe and effective, and yet we have people listening to Joe Rogan on the topic.

Joe Rogan also claimed to have taken ivermectin and experimental antibodies and yet seems to claim that ivermectin is what did the trick. I don't know what his motivations are but he's clearly confused/misinformed.

edit: to clarify, I'm not defending CNN in this instance at all. Both cases of information are terrible.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by mehphp »

infinitezest wrote: post #396
mehphp wrote: post #375

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You don't think it's dangerous for someone with a platform like Rogan has to spread misinformation? That's what I'm referring to.

Which of his claims are you asserting is misinformation?

His anti-vaccination stance (specific to coronavirus, I don't know if he's anti-vax in general).

He pushes ivermectin as a valid alternative to the vaccines when the data does not currently back that up.

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Post by freediver »

hbn wrote: post #388
freediver wrote: post #335

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>I really wish a search engine would empower me to provide a URL ban list Brave discussed implementing similar concept called Goggles: https://brave.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/goggles.pdf Kagi Search already has customizable 'prefer' and 'mute' lists for domains, as well as customizable 'lenses' which are similar to goggles concept from Brave. (disclaimer: founder at Kagi) https://kagi.com

I'm not even sure how much manually blocking domains would help remedy the problem with Google results, which is that so much of the top hits are copy-pasted blog spam with very little information, scrambled together (very possibly by a non-human) purely to game SEO. It seems like it's gotten even worse just in the past few months. I'll try to Google something common, like "can you feed X to dogs" and all the results…

What we do (at Kagi Search) to address this problem is use our own index which contains only non-commercial results from the web as well as forum discussions. Thinking behind is that the quality of the content is in inverse proportion to the number of ads/trackers/affiliate links on the site.

Our index is still in infancy but the example of it working for the query 'best laptop' can be seen in this screenshot:

https://imgur.com/ypyOilV

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Post by pmurt7 »

soundnote wrote: post #442
pmurt7 wrote: post #235

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Mitchell Baker (Mozilla CEO) makes $3 million a year, and Mozilla asks you to donate "to help a nonprofit organization". "On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%. When asked about her salary she stated "I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit…

Importantly: The donations go to Mozilla Foundation, not to its for-profit subsidiary Mozilla Corp. MozCorp is who develop Firefox, the Foundation focuses more on political activism. If you want to help fund the people developing Firefox, one of the Corporation's paid products is the place to send your money.

Why is Mozilla Foundation doing political activism? Is it just some money-grabbing scheme or what?

Mitchell Baker's blog:

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/author/mitchellmozillacom/

Not a single word about Firefox, just some far-left propaganda about racial justice, empowered women in tech, Trump bad, and so.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by skinnymuch »

charcircuit wrote: post #62
cyberpsybin wrote: post #56

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"Google" "private"; unbelievable someone can put these two words in same sentence. Google cannot even pull pages older than 10yrs old at the moment.

Google cares a lot about protecting user's privacy. Take a look at their privacy policy. For example, what other API provider requires you to get security audits ($15k-$75k yearly) when handling sensitive user data.

Yeah…because Google and all other big tech want a monopoly on user data. Do you think any of them want to ever not protect user privacy in the way you defined it?

They still have all this data on users. They don’t even tell you what they have. They have the BS marketing of Google Takeout. It includes nothing about the profile they have made on me. The logs and data they have on what I have clicked, etc.

Google wants to even protect you or I from knowing how much data they have. That’s not the protection any one should want.

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