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Facebook settles federal lawsuit over allegations it favored foreign applicants

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Re: Facebook settles federal lawsuit over allegations it favored foreign applicants

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I actually dont think its the corporation doing this, its just their ranks are filled with mostly H1Bs, who want to hire other H1Bs from their home countries. This practice is absolutely rampant in tech companies. Orgs and departments commonly organize along racial and country of origin lines. I see this at some of the most well known tech companies. Yet I never hear a word spoken of it

Re: Facebook settles federal lawsuit over allegations it favored foreign applicants

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Up to $14.25 million in fines and restitution for defrauding the H-1B program and screwing over US citizens. Facebook won't even blink an eye at that amount. How about barring them from the H-1B program for 5 years? I think that would be a great start.

They should revoke the right of any employer who egregiously violates the program like this. Then have them build programs to get under served communities (urban and rural) to get up to speed; grade them on effectiveness and fine them if ineffective.

Re: Facebook settles federal lawsuit over allegations it favored foreign applicants

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post #3

Up to $14.25 million in fines and restitution for defrauding the H-1B program and screwing over US citizens. Facebook won't even blink an eye at that amount. How about barring them from the H-1B program for 5 years? I think that would be a great start.

Agreed. If the NCAA catches you buying dinner for a college athlete you can lose a number of scholarships for several years. Why wouldn't these violation of H1Bs come along with a fine and a loss of H1B access for x number of years? That would go a long way toward solving the problem.

Re: Facebook settles federal lawsuit over allegations it favored foreign applicants

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post #5

I am supportive of visas for highly skilled workers and immigration in general. However I see many H1-Bs being hired that are frankly overqualified for the work they are end up doing (especially stuff like exploratory QA or entry level operations tasks). I'm not sure we need to import people to do this work. I think the tech industry in the US should be looking at American non-college graduates to do this kind of wor…

I'm not sure it's a good idea to take someone's family history into account when determining whether or not they're qualified to do a certain job. Why should the fact that someone's grandfather went to college hurt them in getting one of these jobs for "people from families without a history of college degrees"?

Even if you think this is good for purposes of equity or whatever, how far back do you go? My maternal grandfather was an attorney but neither of my parents went to college. Which group do I fit into?

Re: Facebook settles federal lawsuit over allegations it favored foreign applicants

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post #13
post #3

Up to $14.25 million in fines and restitution for defrauding the H-1B program and screwing over US citizens. Facebook won't even blink an eye at that amount. How about barring them from the H-1B program for 5 years? I think that would be a great start.

They should revoke the right of any employer who egregiously violates the program like this. Then have them build programs to get under served communities (urban and rural) to get up to speed; grade them on effectiveness and fine them if ineffective.

Well, you're assuming that they actually want the law enforced in this case and aren't just lightly slapping wrists for appearance's sake.

Re: Facebook settles federal lawsuit over allegations it favored foreign applicants

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post #16
post #5

I am supportive of visas for highly skilled workers and immigration in general. However I see many H1-Bs being hired that are frankly overqualified for the work they are end up doing (especially stuff like exploratory QA or entry level operations tasks). I'm not sure we need to import people to do this work. I think the tech industry in the US should be looking at American non-college graduates to do this kind of wor…

I'm not sure it's a good idea to take someone's family history into account when determining whether or not they're qualified to do a certain job. Why should the fact that someone's grandfather went to college hurt them in getting one of these jobs for "people from families without a history of college degrees"? Even if you think this is good for purposes of equity or whatever, how far back do you go? My maternal gra…

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Re: Facebook settles federal lawsuit over allegations it favored foreign applicants

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I actually dont think its the corporation doing this, its just their ranks are filled with mostly H1Bs, who want to hire other H1Bs from their home countries. This practice is absolutely rampant in tech companies. Orgs and departments commonly organize along racial and country of origin lines. I see this at some of the most well known tech companies. Yet I never hear a word spoken of it

It's the ugly side of diversity. When everyone's so busy being "antiracist" they turn a blind eye to racism from the "underprivileged". There's this mass delusion that only one ethnic group is capable of racism, and when they are on the receiving end it's deserved.
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