That's rather brave of them
Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember reading in HN an idea about allowing people to customize the weights used to filter search results - a search engine that provided that, where I could use some curated configuration file. Maybe I could have profiles like "cooking", "programming", "news" and help the search engine even better to understand my intent. Or just have the "don't show results from this site again" button from youtube taken into g…
There's a Chromium extension, uBlacklist, that does something similar. You can blacklist sites from search results and also whitelist so those are highlighted.
Need to try this out!
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#273I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…
> I really wish a search engine would empower me to provide a URL ban list that gets applied server-side instead of filtering on the front end (if anything).
neeva.com could do that for you for the price of a ~coffee ($4.95/month): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc2aTB24XmI
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
The browser is not just the engine and the "browser engine hegemony" is not what really matters. What matters is that Google does not establish a position where it can use its browser to dictate the direction of the whole web in favor of its business. Chromium or not, Brave was never forced to adopt the changes in the extension manifest (which would block some ad-blocking and tracking mechanisms). They also never wer…
I think we’ve seen how Google can kneecap it’s open source products with Android, taking more and more portions into closed source. Why won’t they take the same step with chromium if Microsoft edge and Brave become too popular?
In your example, Chrome is to Android as Chromium is to AOSP. They can not close the Chromium parts, much like they can not close the AOSP parts.
Having MS Edge and Brave becoming too popular would be akin to getting LineageOS, /e/OS to mainstream, and it is exactly my point: no matter how much that would be against Google's interests, there is nothing they can do about it.
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#275I've tried their search, it was ok, but my brain would get so stressed when not finding right info and would blame brave instead... Do they have a shortcut/hotkey for quickly switching to google (and other engines)? The other problem with Brave is that crypto token integration in everywhere which feels more dystopian than Google's data gathering. And let's be honest - memory use after few days is same as Chrome's.
"Do they have a shortcut/hotkey for quickly switching to google (and other engines)?" Yes, simply add !g to your search query.
That is like n steps:
1. Click on address field 2. Move cursor to start of field (cmd + left) 3. Shift + 1 to print bang, g
Was hoping I could cycle thru bing/google/ddg/back to brave to quickly compare results. something like using wasd keys, no modifier.
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#276You know what, I welcome a new search provider, even if it's by a cryptocurrency company. I'd rather see Qwant succeed, but their search is having trouble competing with even duckduckgo. What I don't see is where Brave gets its image search results from. After Microsoft blatantly started serving the CCP by blocking queries for "tank man", which as far as I know they've never actually apologised for, just explained it…
> I'd rather see Qwant succeed, but their search is having trouble competing with even duckduckgo.
Why? (I use the latter.)
> Microsoft blatantly started serving the CCP by blocking queries for "tank man"
Works fine for me [1].
[1] https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank+man&form=HDRSC2&fi...
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#277I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…
I have personally found that when searching for developer documentation, as you mentioned, unfortunately nothing beats Google. I can always find what I’m looking for very quickly. But when I try DuckDuckGo, it’s a mess of irrelevant or weak pages.
It doesn't need to be better than Google, it just need to be better for its marketshare. If users are mostly dev, than it's a win.
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#278Google used to be good at one point in time. Now its search results aren't very relevant, it returns what it thinks it should interest you, not what you've actually searched for. It doesn't matter if you do a verbatim search, it will still try to be smart and use alternative terms.
I hate how smart it tries to be. Sometimes you need to search an intentional misspelling, say, "Aple" (just an example), Google will helpfully try to correct you with "did you mean Apple?", and even if you put the word in quotes you still get results for Apple, not my intentionally misspelled search. Listen to what I'm trying to tell you, dumb machine. They've tweaked it so it only respond to what it thinks you want…
Why not use a real example instead of "Aple" (which returns what you expect: the stock for Apple Hospitality REIT)? Shouldn't be hard at all if this really is such a common problem.
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#279I'm actually tempted to start using Brave. I'm still holding out with Firefox despite Mozilla trying very hard to get rid of us (to the point where the thought has struck me more than once if the current CEO of Mozilla is in the pocket of Google). If at some point the last competing mainstream browser engine is gone I'll probably go for Brave and I might start testing it this week.
Mitchell Baker (Mozilla CEO) makes $3 million a year, and Mozilla asks you to donate "to help a nonprofit organization". "On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%. When asked about her salary she stated "I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit…
ah yes, the coronavirus...the thing that made everybody not use the internet
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
DDG is awful for spam on most searches which can't be easily resolved with a Wikipedia info box. The 3rd result onward is very fishy, content spammy results of very low quality. It's like their algo isn't good enough to separate the wheat from the chaff yet.
DDG can give downright weird and irrelevant results, and sometimes (rarely) even returning with "noting matched your search". I hate it, but I have to fall back to Google quite often, and the results are consistently better; sometimes much better. I still have DDG as the default because it does work a lot of the time, and because it's easy to turn a search in to a Google search with !g, but I have to admit it's not a…
Isn't that a bit by force of habit ? I used to fallback to the !g quite often. I hardly needed it in the last 2 or 3 years. And Google was consistently worse when I did. So, as you say, just my experience.