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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by moystard »

acatton wrote: post #190
skinkestek wrote: post #176

I'm actually tempted to start using Brave. I'm still holding out with Firefox despite Mozilla trying very hard to get rid of us (to the point where the thought has struck me more than once if the current CEO of Mozilla is in the pocket of Google). If at some point the last competing mainstream browser engine is gone I'll probably go for Brave and I might start testing it this week.

I totally get you, as a long time Mozilla fan, I'm sad to see the direction towards which Firefox and Mozilla as a whole are going. But it's not like Brave is ethically or technically better. They use Blink (the same engine as Chrome) and therefore contribute to the mono-culture of the web.[1] They collect donations on behalf of content creators[2], they created this "Attention Token" based on etherium to replace ads…

The latter is still valid for Ethereum until the update to ETH v2 and Proof of Stake is live. We are not there yet.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by [deleted] »

BarryMilo wrote: post #97
tommica wrote: post #87

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I remember reading in HN an idea about allowing people to customize the weights used to filter search results - a search engine that provided that, where I could use some curated configuration file. Maybe I could have profiles like "cooking", "programming", "news" and help the search engine even better to understand my intent. Or just have the "don't show results from this site again" button from youtube taken into g…

This is where ad-based businesses show their ugly side: The more control you have over what you see, the fewer ways they have to slip you inconspicuous ads. This is why all content feeds like Facebook and Twitter get vaguer as time goes by, and it's why Google will never give up control over results unless it legally has to.

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Post by twobitshifter »

rglullis wrote: post #201
AegirLeet wrote: post #180

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There is no "Chromium without the Google". Chromium/Blink is made by Google. By using a browser built on Chromium/Blink, you are actively supporting Google's browser engine hegemony.

The browser is not just the engine and the "browser engine hegemony" is not what really matters. What matters is that Google does not establish a position where it can use its browser to dictate the direction of the whole web in favor of its business. Chromium or not, Brave was never forced to adopt the changes in the extension manifest (which would block some ad-blocking and tracking mechanisms). They also never wer…

I think we’ve seen how Google can kneecap it’s open source products with Android, taking more and more portions into closed source. Why won’t they take the same step with chromium if Microsoft edge and Brave become too popular?

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by vitus »

schmorptron wrote: post #229
judge2020 wrote: post #58

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I think this is telling of how often the python docs actually solve peoples’ questions. For example, I searched “python string replace”, with the first 4 being tutorialpoint, w3schools, geeksforgeeks, stack overflow and at position 8 is the python docs. The issue with the python docs for this search is that it takes me to “built-in types”, and starts off with things totally irrelevant to what I want. I now have to go…

This is true, and if you want the docs you can always just add the word docs to your query. Expecting the search engine to always favor one thing seems like it'd work well in this case for some people, but in other cases might get mushy

I personally configure custom search engines for things like this so if I want docs specifically, I'll type something like "py collections" which directs me to https://docs.python.org/3.10/search.html?q=collections.

I find this especially useful since I often otherwise find myself typing site:python.org (or similar things, like if I just want to see the MDN page instead of going through w3schools or blog posts for examples).

edit: in the particular example for str.replace, I found it buried in the results for "py replace", at the top of "py str.replace" (helps if you know what Python calls the type) and basically nowhere for "py string replace".

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Post by kriro »

sph wrote: post #11
eloisius wrote: post #7

I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…

DDG is awful for spam on most searches which can't be easily resolved with a Wikipedia info box. The 3rd result onward is very fishy, content spammy results of very low quality. It's like their algo isn't good enough to separate the wheat from the chaff yet.

It's also horrible for non English content from my experience.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by cortexio »

a basic test shows that brave search, just like google search, prefers mainstream propaganda over true facts. I cant tell to which extend because it seems like brave search only allows me to see 2 pages of results. There's no next page button or on scroll update.

duckduckgo seems to handle this better. But there are even better ones which im not going to mention because i dont want anyone to change them.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by _han »

moystard wrote: post #261
acatton wrote: post #190

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I totally get you, as a long time Mozilla fan, I'm sad to see the direction towards which Firefox and Mozilla as a whole are going. But it's not like Brave is ethically or technically better. They use Blink (the same engine as Chrome) and therefore contribute to the mono-culture of the web.[1] They collect donations on behalf of content creators[2], they created this "Attention Token" based on etherium to replace ads…

The latter is still valid for Ethereum until the update to ETH v2 and Proof of Stake is live. We are not there yet.

When is this expected to go live? I thought we'd be there by now.

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Post by tommica »

prirai wrote: post #255
tommica wrote: post #87

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I remember reading in HN an idea about allowing people to customize the weights used to filter search results - a search engine that provided that, where I could use some curated configuration file. Maybe I could have profiles like "cooking", "programming", "news" and help the search engine even better to understand my intent. Or just have the "don't show results from this site again" button from youtube taken into g…

Searx can make you do exactly that. It's really easily to get started with a self hosted serverand then you can customize it the way you want.

Interesting, I did not know it could do that - need to take a look into it!

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Post by tommica »

kodah wrote: post #141
tommica wrote: post #87

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I remember reading in HN an idea about allowing people to customize the weights used to filter search results - a search engine that provided that, where I could use some curated configuration file. Maybe I could have profiles like "cooking", "programming", "news" and help the search engine even better to understand my intent. Or just have the "don't show results from this site again" button from youtube taken into g…

I use Neeva.com and I think one of their features resembles this idea. It is a paid for search engine though.

Hmm, a paid search engine - wonder how they handle the spam SEO problem, but is an interesting idea

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by tommica »

captn3m0 wrote: post #99
tommica wrote: post #87

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I remember reading in HN an idea about allowing people to customize the weights used to filter search results - a search engine that provided that, where I could use some curated configuration file. Maybe I could have profiles like "cooking", "programming", "news" and help the search engine even better to understand my intent. Or just have the "don't show results from this site again" button from youtube taken into g…

https://felvin.com/ is trying to build "Search profiles", but it's still quite early.

Thanks for sharing, gotta look into this!
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