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Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by VortexDream »

eloisius wrote: post #7

I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…

I'm getting these sites with Google too, so I don't think it's just a Brave Search issue.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by v7p1Qbt1im »

eloisius wrote: post #7

I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…

I doubt it would do much good to have a ban list. An entire industry is singularly focused on gaming search engines to promote whatever. It just so happens that blogspam sites are incredibly profitable in aggregate.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by PUSH_AX »

p-e-w wrote: post #144
eloisius wrote: post #7

I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…

I don't understand why search engines don't fight SEO spam using simple, hardcoded rules for specific keywords. Surely, something like "if the search string contains the word 'python', rank results from 'python.org' above everything else" can't be difficult to implement? Granted, it's not a silver bullet for search engine spam in general, but even a few dozen rules like that would dramatically improve the quality of…

I think you’re broadly talking about site authority which is something search engines absolutely do, I imagine it’s a non trivial thing to get right and the scope of doing it manually for every topic on the planet is probably not going to be easy.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by tommit »

fastball wrote: post #156
zeronine wrote: post #21

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brave shilling is concerningly effective

Yeah, I'm honestly flabbergasted that people like using a browser that has the performance of Chromium without the Google, a thorough / very performant ad-blocker built-in, and some totally optional next-gen features that many people like.

I'm with you. I check out most brave threads on HN and am always surprised by the level of hatred towards it.

I've been using it for over a year now. It's a good browser and I like the new ideas they come up with. I don't know whether it's going to catch on, but at least someone is thinking outside the box.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by e3bc54b2 »

p-e-w wrote: post #145
topbanana wrote: post #139

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Commercial pressure seems the most likely to me

How would such "pressure" look in practice? Seems to me that every industry on the planet is at Google's mercy, not the other way round.

The worst sites a.k.a. those a user might want to block are probably also bringing Google disproportionally large amount of income is my guess.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by Matheus28 »

0x49d1 wrote: post #146

Unfortunately can't use it: I'm on my private VPN almost all the time (need it for work). VPN is hosted as OpenVPN service on German Digital Ocean server to have static public IP. The VPN is mine only (sure IP is not), I'm the only person who uses it. Brave Search shows error on accessing: https://ibb.co/72L3mc5 . Other search engines open without problems. Turning off VPN helps, but I don't really understand why my…

A LOT of abuse come from datacenter IP ranges. Most sites find it easier to just blacklist them all.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by Hendrikto »

kccqzy wrote: post #152
p-e-w wrote: post #144

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I don't understand why search engines don't fight SEO spam using simple, hardcoded rules for specific keywords. Surely, something like "if the search string contains the word 'python', rank results from 'python.org' above everything else" can't be difficult to implement? Granted, it's not a silver bullet for search engine spam in general, but even a few dozen rules like that would dramatically improve the quality of…

I hate it to say it, but for CS beginners python.org isn't a good resource: it's simply too technical. Even for motivated students it will take them at least a few months of learning from a more beginner-friendly resource before the official docs on python.org make sense. That's not to mention the multitude of other materials on python.org other than the docs, like PEPs, pypi (third party libraries), bug reports, etc…

> Can you imagine a student searching for how to use a Python feature, but found a PEP illustrating the design of that language feature?

That wouldn‘t be so bad. PEPs contain a short summary, motivation, and usage examples.

That said, I do get your point.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by xapata »

skinkestek wrote: post #129
xapata wrote: post #115

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I can't speak for Java's docs, but Python's have good examples in the documentation that are not present in an IDE's tooltips. Further, there's often a handy link to the source code of the module.

Thinking back, yes it is probably true what you write about Python docs, the problem is you easily end up in the wrong docs when searching for something.

I'm not sure why that's happening to you. Perhaps you're being misled by some SEO to click on pages that are sites trying to put advertisements in front of you?
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