How is this "news" so high up?
This isn't even technically interesting.
Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#122Joe Rogan mentioned on his show past week that he stopped using google search as well. Joe is convinced google is censoring results on covid, because he kept getting back official sources (benefits of the vaccine), when he was searching the opposite. Keyword searches for specific articles failed to return results. He now questions what else google is censoring.
Big tech bots are going to downvote you for saying this
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#123This reminds me to uninstall brave. Rebranded chromium with crypto shilling and now "premium search"? They didn't even test DNS with their tor feature, causing identity leaks. Can we not just have the chromium builds degoogled and include the codecs and DRM libs? Woolyss builds do all that, but there's no fancy single download installer+auto updater. We need just "chromium".
Then use chromium, who's stopping you?
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
DDG can give downright weird and irrelevant results, and sometimes (rarely) even returning with "noting matched your search". I hate it, but I have to fall back to Google quite often, and the results are consistently better; sometimes much better. I still have DDG as the default because it does work a lot of the time, and because it's easy to turn a search in to a Google search with !g, but I have to admit it's not a…
I hear this criticism a lot and I always wonder whether that has something to do with either me not having a Google account and thus using the unpersonalized search, or simply with what I search for, but Google is almost always giving me worse results that DDG or, for that matter, any of the smaller competitors. Google seems to be filled with sponsored results that are only superficially relevant, and from page 2 onw…
I'm never logged in to Google, and don't even store cookies by default (although that may or may not be enough to prevent all tracking/personalisation, it's more than "the average" user and does seem to keep the worst out, not that personalisation is necessarily bad; the singular reason I have an account is because I actually like YouTube personalisation – without it I just get idiotic nonsense on the frontpage and now I get stuff I actually want to watch, although the old YouTube model of good categories was still better, but ah well).
I wish I had taken some screenshots, here's the only recent one I have: https://i.imgur.com/b9hu2a9.png – I was trying to find about Cambodian date writing conventions for some i18n code, but all DDG gave me was spam (and most likely, scam) results. Probably not the best search term in the first place ("Cambodian calender" would be better), but it's a decent example.
I should keep a spreadsheet or something, but I'm too lazy for that. And it's not really all that interesting either.
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#125Google used to be good at one point in time. Now its search results aren't very relevant, it returns what it thinks it should interest you, not what you've actually searched for. It doesn't matter if you do a verbatim search, it will still try to be smart and use alternative terms.
Every NLP AI is like that, it’s like trying to make a mentally challenged person do something for you and you have to correct them for something extremely simple and it is frustrating. Yes, Google, I did not type North Korea DHL by accident. I really mean the odd one because I’m curious if they have DHL but I really don’t feel like explaining it to you. Could you please simply don’t assume stuff by default? I appreci…
I only get relevant results such as "Does DHL deliver to North Korea?" and "DHL establishes operation in North Korea". Do you have a better example actually illustrating this?
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#126Google used to be good at one point in time. Now its search results aren't very relevant, it returns what it thinks it should interest you, not what you've actually searched for. It doesn't matter if you do a verbatim search, it will still try to be smart and use alternative terms.
> returns what it thinks it should interest you, not what you've actually searched for.
It also returns what if thinks google will profit the most from - I’ve noticed a huge uptick in the number of ads which are poor-quality results and usually take both the top 4 and bottom 4 positions on the first page.
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#127I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…
Some years ago Google had the option to remove a website from search results. After a few months they discontinued. It would be nice to know why, if the user adoption was too low, the computational cost too high, or the user experience too bad because users inadvertently removed good results.
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried your example both with and without quotes and I got Apple Hospitality which seems to be correct. Humans make so many typos that for the majority of people, autocorrecting is a net win.
I wish there was a mode for "do as I ask"
> I wish there was a mode for "do as I ask"
There is verbatim and back in the day this is also what doublequotes meant.
Google has gotten away by blaming it on spam since back when matt_cutts was here, but I fail to see how spam can possibly be the reason why neither doublequotes nor verbatim works (edit:) unless spammers have found their way into Googles ranking algorithm to neuter all exact match operators.
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Warning: unusual opinions sliding into a full fledged rant. I know it is cool to hate w3schools and I don't use it personally, but seriously, can we get over ourselves here? The reason why w3schools rank highly and have done for years is because for a large segment of users it works. And as someone else has pointed out the official documentation is often atrocious: both Python and Java online docs are close to worthl…
I can't speak for Java's docs, but Python's have good examples in the documentation that are not present in an IDE's tooltips. Further, there's often a handy link to the source code of the module.
Thinking back, yes it is probably true what you write about Python docs, the problem is you easily end up in the wrong docs when searching for something.
Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser
#130Honest question. I have used DuckDuckGo and Brave Search and although they seem to do the job for generic searches they really suck for very specific searches. How likely is for one of these search engines to catch-up technologically to Google's sophistication? I really can't see a clear trajectory for them to compete with Google's quality.
on the contrary. for what it's worth, I think google search is finally open to disruption. the tech required to compete with them is finally commoditized enough that it's financially doable, plus, and most importantly, they've screwed up their search results so much now that google search is just not that good anymore. I also think that they're "too" clever with their search to their detriment. We tend to think in te…
> the tech required to compete with them is finally commoditized
What are you referring to? Not even DDG has their own index.