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Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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Post by jfrunyon » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 8:19 PM UTC

hattar wrote: post #225

jfrunyon wrote: post #208

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> One of the reasons why all these SV tech business got away with it is the fact that they are all located in US Well, they could still be (at the very least) prohibited from operating in your country. Sadly, most of these services (Airbnb, Uber) were also illegal here in the US, but for "some reason" (aka lots and lots of $$$), no one ever bothered enforcement against them. Eventually they spent enough money on brib…

In defense of the short-sighted public (me), I don’t know the operating costs, profit requirements, accounting model, etc of a hired car service. I can’t assume any time the price of a product goes down, that someone is trying something shady. I can say I loved Uber et al primarily because unlike any experiences I ever had with calling a taxi, a car actually showed up to bring me to my destination. If I correctly int…

If you didn't know that Uber was skirting regulations to offer their cheap prices, then you literally weren't paying any attention and I don't know how you even knew Uber existed.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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Post by AnthonyMouse » Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 8:32 PM UTC

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #397

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #363

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It's not just "NIMBY and voter/pol tunnel vision." Corporations that own houses don't want their value to decline. People renting properties out on AirBNB don't want their value to decline. They're just different categories of existing property owners who want property values to stay high or increase more. The mechanism they all use for that is restrictive zoning. To win that you have to defeat them all. That's why i…

> It's not just "NIMBY and voter/pol tunnel vision." That would be why I made the point repeatedly that it isn't any one factor that got us here and cautioned against trying to frame it that way.

Because all the same factors have the same cause.

If housing prices are too high, landlords will want them to stay high. You can say that it's male landlords and female landlords and gay landlords and redneck landlords and atheist landlords and thin landlords and fat landlords and look how many factors there are. But you're just bisecting the group "existing property owners" along arbitrary lines that have nothing to do with anything.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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Post by jfrunyon » Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 2:06 AM UTC

pverghese wrote: post #265

jfrunyon wrote: post #215

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I know it's normal for taxi drivers here to own their taxi, and therefore be the only one who drives it - I wonder how common that is throughout the rest of the world? Are there places where different drivers might drive the same cab in shifts?

It's not even normal in the US for medallioned taxis. 50% of the medallions are owned by one man and leased out to others who can loan the car out to others as well.

The medallions are owned (and leased), not the taxis. Furthermore, medallions only exist in a few cities. And I'm very curious about your "50%" number. 50% of the medallions in NYC? 50% of the medallions in the country? Dubious either way.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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Post by jfrunyon » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 4:26 PM UTC

solveit wrote: post #332

TeMPOraL wrote: post #256

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Initially, when they entered new markets and burned VC money to sustain the beachhead. Once their position on a given market was established, the prices went up and quality dropped like a stone.

Do the taxis still actually come? Then quality is miles ahead of what it used to be.

Do the Ubers?

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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Post by btbuildem » Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 8:24 PM UTC

hellweaver666 wrote: post #314

btbuildem wrote: post #216

Booking.com is where the most desperate landlords and the real scumbags post. It's a cesspool. No wonder it's the only one where number of listings has increased given the circumstances.

Thats actually not true. Booking is based in Amsterdam and has been working closely with the city to ensure regulatory requirements are met. The "most desperate" landlords as you put it have all been approved by the city unlike the thousands on other platforms thats why Booking has been able to continue growing, they're actually way more selective on who they allow.

My experience two years ago was very different, I'm glad to hear they've cleaned up their act.