For those who would like to avoid this situation, Mike Monteiro (@Mike_FTW) has humorously useful advice for contractors: F*ck You. Pay Me. http://vimeo.com/22053820
Awesome video. Not safe for work, but if you're freelancing, I'd HIGHLY recommend watching it.
Developer open-sources 200+ hr project after client refuses to pay
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Re: Developer open-sources 200+ hr project after client refuses to pay
#52The client wouldn't pay, so he gives it to them for free anyway?
Re: Developer open-sources 200+ hr project after client refuses to pay
#53"This code is licensed under MIT license with one exception: for 5 years, this license excludes any use which benefits directly or indirectly the current owners of UnPayingCompany, Inc. On Aug 1st, 2017, the license for this code is MIT without any restriction."
Re: Developer open-sources 200+ hr project after client refuses to pay
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you run into any pushback from potential clients when you tell them this?
I imagine he does, but those are probably also the type of clients you don't want to be accepting anyways.
Re: Developer open-sources 200+ hr project after client refuses to pay
#55He could have been a bit more vindictive, perhaps a non-osi compliant license like: "This code is licensed under MIT license with one exception: for 5 years, this license excludes any use which benefits directly or indirectly the current owners of UnPayingCompany, Inc. On Aug 1st, 2017, the license for this code is MIT without any restriction."
I think he's doing the right thing by releasing it as OSS. Hopefully he'll pick up some support hours if anyone actually ends up using it.
Re: Developer open-sources 200+ hr project after client refuses to pay
#56After spending 200+ hours developing the system, not a dime has been seen or given Freelancers should always try to get at least a deposit upfront. When I was freelancing, I would get 100% upfront for projects under $500, 50% upfront for projects between $500 and $2000. For projects over $2000, I would get 25% upfront, and then set milestones with payments attached. I had a $7500 project once where the guy made the f…
Where is a good place to learn the ins and outs of contracts? Is there a comprehensive website or book that you can recommend? I am early in my career and have been on both sides of writing contracts. While I am figuring a lot of things out as I go it would be nice to sit down and wrap my head around this for good. Also, to the OP, is a few weeks really enough time? If those were 200 billable hours it seems like it's…
Re: Developer open-sources 200+ hr project after client refuses to pay
#57After spending 200+ hours developing the system, not a dime has been seen or given Freelancers should always try to get at least a deposit upfront. When I was freelancing, I would get 100% upfront for projects under $500, 50% upfront for projects between $500 and $2000. For projects over $2000, I would get 25% upfront, and then set milestones with payments attached. I had a $7500 project once where the guy made the f…
Where is a good place to learn the ins and outs of contracts? Is there a comprehensive website or book that you can recommend? I am early in my career and have been on both sides of writing contracts. While I am figuring a lot of things out as I go it would be nice to sit down and wrap my head around this for good. Also, to the OP, is a few weeks really enough time? If those were 200 billable hours it seems like it's…
Re: Developer open-sources 200+ hr project after client refuses to pay
#58The client wouldn't pay, so he gives it to them for free anyway?
Re: Developer open-sources 200+ hr project after client refuses to pay
#59For those who would like to avoid this situation, Mike Monteiro (@Mike_FTW) has humorously useful advice for contractors: F*ck You. Pay Me. http://vimeo.com/22053820
Re: Developer open-sources 200+ hr project after client refuses to pay
#60He could have been a bit more vindictive, perhaps a non-osi compliant license like: "This code is licensed under MIT license with one exception: for 5 years, this license excludes any use which benefits directly or indirectly the current owners of UnPayingCompany, Inc. On Aug 1st, 2017, the license for this code is MIT without any restriction."
Tempting and amusing, perhaps, but it wouldn't exactly put him in a flattering light as a contractor. It might even scare off potential future clients. I think he's doing the right thing by releasing it as OSS. Hopefully he'll pick up some support hours if anyone actually ends up using it.