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Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Post by oblak »

nickff wrote: post #29
323 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once read an article which was about how we are willing to spend thousands to save one particular dog, or one particular injured bird, instead of donating that money to "animal habitat preservation" or something similar which will save thousands of diverse animals. And then there's the whole industrial farm-animal raising thing, where billions of animals are systematically tortured. But nobody cares, because it's n…

> "...billions of animals are systematically tortured. But nobody cares..." Many people do care, and show it in various ways, from paying extra for free-range eggs, to going vegetarian or vegan. I agree with the other commenter that you're being overly cynical.

You're right but it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, though.

For every vegetarian, vegan, or anyone just willing to scale down, there are hundreds who would happily consume more of that sweet subsidized meat, even if it kills them.

Sorry for the rant

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Post by crate_barre »

323 wrote: post #26
sushisource wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To contrast, I think maybe you're being a bit overly cynical. What evidence is there of that happening? Even if they did, is that such a bad thing? Can the guy not want to both save the dogs and make a cool video? They're not mutually exclusive.

I once read an article which was about how we are willing to spend thousands to save one particular dog, or one particular injured bird, instead of donating that money to "animal habitat preservation" or something similar which will save thousands of diverse animals. And then there's the whole industrial farm-animal raising thing, where billions of animals are systematically tortured. But nobody cares, because it's n…

We would do this for anyone honestly, it’s not just dogs. That’s tough to see. My heart isn’t handling this well and I just heard about it.

I hope the net is very big, they’d have to do dry runs with the net with the food in it, get them used to going into the net for the food. The hard part is going to be (well every part is hard), but if both dogs come into the net, that’s going to be a failed attempt.

Sadly I think they may only get one dog out, unless the dogs have different sleeping patterns, grab the awake one. I have no idea, this is heart breaking.

Maybe send a huge net with 4 drones to ensure if both dogs come in, they can carry the load out.

If they pull it off, take all the free marketing you can eat.

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Post by jagger27 »

vorpalhex wrote: post #3

Obviously a last ditch rescue attempt, which vindicates the untested methodology that we might otherwise be critical of. Also rather faith restoring that so many people are attempting to save these animals at cost to themselves.

This language reminds me of the infamous Thai cave rescue. Look how public opinion turned on Elon in that instance.

There are a lot of differences here, of course.

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Post by gridspy »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #5

steerable dirigible, like the goodyear blimp, with suspended cable and basket?

It would crash.

A dirigible requires a temperature difference between the ambient (surrounding) air and the air inside the lift bladder. Or the same temperature but different density.

The heat of the lava would create an area of lower air density which would result in a significant loss of lift as it crosses.

I guess you could compensate with a high altitude crossing, but it still sounds dangerous.

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Post by gridspy »

consumer451 wrote: post #19
vient wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you opened the link? > Helicopters are banned from flying to the area because of hot gas that can damage their rotors.

Which is not quite accurate. AFAIK, the problem is that the tiny particles quickly destroy the turbine engines, not the rotor itself.

Probably the reporter assumes most people consider the whole "spinny thing that keeps helicopter in air" package to be one thing. Turbine, rotor and all.

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Post by wavefunction »

jagger27 wrote: post #33
vorpalhex wrote: post #3

Obviously a last ditch rescue attempt, which vindicates the untested methodology that we might otherwise be critical of. Also rather faith restoring that so many people are attempting to save these animals at cost to themselves.

This language reminds me of the infamous Thai cave rescue. Look how public opinion turned on Elon in that instance. There are a lot of differences here, of course.

Didn't public opinion swing against Elon Musk for trying to insert himself into an already on-going rescue and then called one of the men who did rescue the kids a 'pedo-guy'? That's something I'd expect from a 13 year old on xbox live.

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Post by esel2k »

I think the 4minutes will be very hard. But since the limiting factor is the battery and the dog probably not cooperating, why not first fly a solar panel (to charge the drone) or an unpowered trap (to give enough time to catch the dog) to allow to rerisk the limitations…

Re: Drone operator will try to rescue dogs from Spanish volcano

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Post by onychomys »

crate_barre wrote: post #32
323 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once read an article which was about how we are willing to spend thousands to save one particular dog, or one particular injured bird, instead of donating that money to "animal habitat preservation" or something similar which will save thousands of diverse animals. And then there's the whole industrial farm-animal raising thing, where billions of animals are systematically tortured. But nobody cares, because it's n…

We would do this for anyone honestly, it’s not just dogs. That’s tough to see. My heart isn’t handling this well and I just heard about it. I hope the net is very big, they’d have to do dry runs with the net with the food in it, get them used to going into the net for the food. The hard part is going to be (well every part is hard), but if both dogs come into the net, that’s going to be a failed attempt. Sadly I thin…

I mean, we'd obviously do it for people. I'm not sure we'd do it for many other animals, though.
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