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Re: Android 12

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Post by NikolaeVarius »

hnburnsy wrote: post #15
riffic wrote: post #2

did they stop giving these cutesy dessert-related nicknames for some reason?

> Going with a new naming scheme for the 10th version of Android makes a bit of sense; it’s a landmark release. Still, given how difficult it is to put a common dessert to the letter Q, I noted to Google’s Sameer Samat, VP of product management for Android, that it was awfully convenient that Google picked this release to switch up the naming scheme. “We’re going to deal with that skepticism,” he says. Google’s actua…

Are you kidding me. Are we going to now accuse IKEA of cultural imperialism since their furniture uses Swedish names?

Whats wrong with just taking random foods from around the world?

Re: Android 12

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Post by lapetitejort »

dont__panic wrote: post #21
hnburnsy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Going with a new naming scheme for the 10th version of Android makes a bit of sense; it’s a landmark release. Still, given how difficult it is to put a common dessert to the letter Q, I noted to Google’s Sameer Samat, VP of product management for Android, that it was awfully convenient that Google picked this release to switch up the naming scheme. “We’re going to deal with that skepticism,” he says. Google’s actua…

You could make the same argument that names aren't inclusive -- after all, not everyone can say "Jean Valjean" but "24601" is universal, right? It doesn't really matter, but it's weird reasoning. Cutesy touches like the dessert names help humanize tech company products and anchor them in reality. It's a shame to give it up because we can't find universal desserts, which is a strange claim to make anyway -- wouldn't a…

> wouldn't anybody, anywhere, appreciate a marshmallow?

Doubtful. Cacao farmers have never tasted chocolate [0]. Foods and desserts are not universal. The sugary slop I eat in America would be appalling in many places across the world. Not to mention the portion sizes.

[0]: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/08/01/336919715/th...

Re: Android 12

#35

Post by k8sToGo »

no_time wrote: post #20

Looks like grandparent mode is enabled by default with all the whitespace and even lower information density. What's the endgame? In 20 years only a single letter at a time on the screen? >Any information processed in Private Compute Core requires explicit user action before it can be shared with Google (...) If they know everything about the data going in and coming out it's still useless. Also what important APIs d…

I feel the same about it. Also now the settings it's just a bunch of text without icons.

Re: Android 12

#36

Post by Zigurd »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #27

So if it’s released, why does my phone say there are no updates available… /s

This is a serious problem that Google has not worked nearly hard enough. Sure, you can buy a Pixel if you want no bloatware and updates on the release day. But not having that for most OEMs is, among other things, a security problem.

Re: Android 12

#37

Post by causi »

no_time wrote: post #20

Looks like grandparent mode is enabled by default with all the whitespace and even lower information density. What's the endgame? In 20 years only a single letter at a time on the screen? >Any information processed in Private Compute Core requires explicit user action before it can be shared with Google (...) If they know everything about the data going in and coming out it's still useless. Also what important APIs d…

As someone who grew up using 160x160 and 320x320 PDAs, the idea a smartphone now uses a 1080x1200 rectangle to only give me eight buttons makes me want to throw up.

Re: Android 12

#38

Post by gman83 »

handrous wrote: post #26
lucasverra wrote: post #10

It is remarkable the difference in awareness that android vs iOS releases produce. As a iOS user, i'm glad that iOS releases and features are pushed to me aggressively.

Having been a developer for both platforms, Apple events/announcements are exciting for people working on iOS apps, while Google events are kinda just depressing. "Oh, yeah, that's cool I guess. Be fun to get to use it in five more years when enough people have this, or a newer, version, for it to matter."

This isn't true imo. With AndroidX and before that the support library, most of the new features have been backwards compatible with older versions of Android.

Re: Android 12

#39

Post by 45ure »

nly wrote: post #9

Anyone else just stopped keeping track of what version of Android their phone is on? I used to know this stuff, but these days couldn't care less.

It becomes even more irrelevant, where UI enhancements have already been implemented by manufacturers to improve their OS. For example, Samsung OneUI with Good Lock (Multistar, Navstar,Notistar, Quickstar, Home Up, Clockface) One Hand Operation+, Sound Assistant etc. I am looking forward to how some of the features will be incorporated/improved in the new version(OneUI 4), rather than the stock features of Android 12.

Re: Android 12

#40

Post by Isthatablackgsd »

causi wrote: post #37
no_time wrote: post #20

Looks like grandparent mode is enabled by default with all the whitespace and even lower information density. What's the endgame? In 20 years only a single letter at a time on the screen? >Any information processed in Private Compute Core requires explicit user action before it can be shared with Google (...) If they know everything about the data going in and coming out it's still useless. Also what important APIs d…

As someone who grew up using 160x160 and 320x320 PDAs, the idea a smartphone now uses a 1080x1200 rectangle to only give me eight buttons makes me want to throw up.

As someone who used 132x65 pagers back then, my Blackberry RIM 850 can display more information in the screen than my Samsung Note 8. I loathe this "maximum white space!!" UIs as well. My boss prefers the grandparent-mode UIs whereas I prefer compact with every space is being used as possible. I like to have high-density texts like the old day of Reddit to minimum screen-scrolling.
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