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The disappearance of the world’s greatest free diver (2015)

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Fascinating (and kind of depressing) that the "attention deconcentration" technique she used to become a world-class athlete was originally developed in Russia for people who held very boring jobs.

> Molchanova’s technique for concentration was based on a procedure she called attention deconcentration. She said it came from ancient warriors and was used by samurai, and that in Russia it had been adapted and developed for people who held very boring jobs. It involved moving one’s attention to the periphery of one’s awareness, against the imperative of the eye, which is trained to focus. It was a form of meditation. As one advanced into it, the left cerebral hemisphere, which deals with words, grew quiet. This allowed parts of the mind and body more resistant to the frightening stresses of free diving to take over.

Re: The disappearance of the world’s greatest free diver (2015)

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I was a competitive freediver and have lost friends in this sport. Freediving is one of the most dangerous yet most rewarding sports out there. It connects us to something deep with carry inside ourselves as we all evolved from water. Being able to reach 100m (or even 200m in no-limits competition) on a single breath of air, and be able to withstand crushing pressures is an extraordinary feat for a human body and is…

> It connects us to something deep with carry inside ourselves as we all evolved from water.

Could you elaborate on this? I'm not seeing the logical connection.

Re: The disappearance of the world’s greatest free diver (2015)

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I was a competitive freediver and have lost friends in this sport. Freediving is one of the most dangerous yet most rewarding sports out there. It connects us to something deep with carry inside ourselves as we all evolved from water. Being able to reach 100m (or even 200m in no-limits competition) on a single breath of air, and be able to withstand crushing pressures is an extraordinary feat for a human body and is…

> It connects us to something deep with carry inside ourselves as we all evolved from water. Could you elaborate on this? I'm not seeing the logical connection.

To give an example of this connection from a standpoint of science, it is well documented that simply emerging your face in the water triggers something called a "mammalian diving reflex".

What this reflex does is basically automatically slow down your heart rate as soon as your face is submerged, as the body prepares to conserve oxygen for the expected dive. Very useful!

Now, it is no surprise that aquatic mammals like seals and dolphins have this, but it very curious that humans have it too!

More on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diving_reflex

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_swimming

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Sounds like tech could be used to increase safety. How about a mask with emergency oxygen that detects when you pass out and administers the oxygen? Maybe location beacons similar to tacking undersea animals?

I suspect that main problem is that it would be contrary to the spirit of the sport. It would probably also difficult to actually get working properly.

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It's disturbing how casual the tone of this article is.

Not really? I mean, of course everyone has their own reaction to these things and I don't want to deny anyone else their emotions...

But I mean, this seems like precisely part of the game. Dangerous things are dangerous. It's a tragedy in that all early deaths are tragedies, but nothing shocking here.

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> Typically, free divers have spotters, who wait beneath the surface during a dive, but she was the only experienced diver among the group she was with, so there were no spotters.

Especially with a rich client, there was no excuse for not having a safety (scuba) diver in the water.

Complacency will get you, every time.

Re: The disappearance of the world’s greatest free diver (2015)

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I was a competitive freediver and have lost friends in this sport. Freediving is one of the most dangerous yet most rewarding sports out there. It connects us to something deep with carry inside ourselves as we all evolved from water. Being able to reach 100m (or even 200m in no-limits competition) on a single breath of air, and be able to withstand crushing pressures is an extraordinary feat for a human body and is…

> It connects us to something deep with carry inside ourselves as we all evolved from water. Could you elaborate on this? I'm not seeing the logical connection.

I think one of the most exciting ways to make the connection is to experience free diving. It's somewhat surreal as you connect all the dots - your body is excellent in water, far beyond what could be described as coincidental. Without much practice, you learn to do things with muscles you didn't know you had, regulate air pressure, calm your nerves, etc.

You get to connect with a part of your biology that is often totally overseen in regular life. And the experience is quite beautiful. It's really like visiting another world, to me. It's almost elating to describe. Being in the sea, quiet, relaxed, taking it all in - there's nothing I crave more, really. If it's snowing and the water is 4°C, I'll still hop in. It's invariably worth the time.

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post #15
post #10

Sounds like tech could be used to increase safety. How about a mask with emergency oxygen that detects when you pass out and administers the oxygen? Maybe location beacons similar to tacking undersea animals?

I suspect that main problem is that it would be contrary to the spirit of the sport. It would probably also difficult to actually get working properly.

I don't know if it would really be contrary to the spirit of the sport. The mask would only provide oxygen if passed out. I'm also not talking about big bottles, but just small cartridges of a couple hundred grams. Just enough to provide some oxygen and block water from the airway. It would might not be enough to regain consciousness, but hopefully enough time keep them alive while the spotter/rescue swimmer gets to them (I guess it wouldn't help in this scenario, but it's not good practice to dive without support). The weight could count towards their normal limit. Plus, they already use gear like goggles, wet suits, etc so it's not like a complete paradigm shift.

Yeah it wouldn't be easy, but you could maybe use an EEG lead, read diver mouth/eye/face state via cameras built into the mask, or something else. I wouldn't be surprised if someone with more physiological knowledge knows of some involuntary signs/actions that occur when one loses consciousness.

Re: The disappearance of the world’s greatest free diver (2015)

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post #10

Sounds like tech could be used to increase safety. How about a mask with emergency oxygen that detects when you pass out and administers the oxygen? Maybe location beacons similar to tacking undersea animals?

Yeah or like an arm canister of oxygen. I get that the sport is supposed to be dangerous but we've taken dangerous sports and made them less dangerous before. It's not a huge loss.
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