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Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Post by jml7c5 »

labby5 wrote: post #793
jml7c5 wrote: post #712

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The M1 is extremely competitive with modern dGPUs, only a bit behind a 6900 XT. Do you have a source for this?

Yes, apple's marketing materials claim 400 GB/s, while the 6900 XT is 512 GB/s. This is very easily Googled. While memory bandwidth isn't everything, it is the major bottleneck in most graphics pipelines. An x86 cpu with 3200 MHz memory has about 40 GB/s of bandwidth, which more or less makes high end integrated graphics impossible.

Ah, I misunderstood your comment. When you said it was competitive with the 6900 XT I thought you were talking about GPU performance in general, not just in terms of memory bandwidth.

Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Post by growt »

ashtonkem wrote: post #801
bla3 wrote: post #82

This is about the processors, not the laptops, so commenting on the chips instead. They look great, but they look like they're the M1 design, just more of it. Which is plenty for a laptop! But it'll be interesting to see what they'll do for their desktops. Most of the additional chip area went into more GPUs and special-purpose video codec hardware. It's "just" two more cores than the vanilla M1, and some of the effi…

> I'm still a bit sad that the era of "general purpose computing" where CPU can do all workloads is coming to an end. You'd have to be extremely old to remember that era. Lots of stuff important to making computers work got split off into separate chips away from the CPU pretty early into mass computing, such as sound, graphics, and networking. We've also been sending a lot of compute from the CPU into the GPU as lat…

Does an Intel 286 without coprocessor count? C64? I remember those, but I wouldn't say I'm extremely old (just regular old).

Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Post by hansel_der »

ashtonkem wrote: post #801
bla3 wrote: post #82

This is about the processors, not the laptops, so commenting on the chips instead. They look great, but they look like they're the M1 design, just more of it. Which is plenty for a laptop! But it'll be interesting to see what they'll do for their desktops. Most of the additional chip area went into more GPUs and special-purpose video codec hardware. It's "just" two more cores than the vanilla M1, and some of the effi…

> I'm still a bit sad that the era of "general purpose computing" where CPU can do all workloads is coming to an end. You'd have to be extremely old to remember that era. Lots of stuff important to making computers work got split off into separate chips away from the CPU pretty early into mass computing, such as sound, graphics, and networking. We've also been sending a lot of compute from the CPU into the GPU as lat…

discrete floating point co-processors and vodoo graphics come to my mind

Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Post by mirekrusin »

runeks wrote: post #835

Does the M1 Pro/Max support running/building x86 Docker images using x86 hardware emulation? As as developer, this is the feature I've missed the most after having used my M1 MacBook Air for about a year.

docker buildx should be able to handle it, no?

Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Post by arvinsim »

miohtama wrote: post #577
00deadbeef wrote: post #538

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same, I tend to get everything in 32GB but more and more often I'm going over that and having things slow down. I've also nuked an SSD in a 16GB MBP due to incredibly high swap activity. It would make no sense for me to buy another 32GB machine if I want it to last five years.

Don’t run Chrome and Slack at the same time :)

So run Slack inside Chrome? :)

Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Post by burmanm »

Jimpulse wrote: post #734
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #61

For me, think about that memory bandwidth. No other CPU comes even close. A Ryzen 5950X can only transfer about 43GB/s. This thing promises 400GB/s on the highest-end model.

The AMD chips in the PS5 and new XBox reach 448GB/s and 326GB/s bandwith respectively with their unified memory.

Not entirely true. Xbox Series X has two different memory bandwidths. The first 10GB has 560GB/s and the last 6GB has only 336GB/s.
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