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Victorian gas lamps that sold cups of hot coffee (2012)

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Re: Victorian gas lamps that sold cups of hot coffee (2012)

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I have never understood that compulsion, why do people here constantly vandalize anything unsupervised. What is the motivation of these people they don't get anything out of it. Why break something when it wont benefit you to do so. Why do people rub feces all over public restrooms, break vending machines or graffiti hate filled messages on others property. why make to world a worse place for everyone including yours…

If you are looking for a serious answer, vandalism is generally explained as a response to a social hierachy. When you feel you are at the bottom of the pile in relation to others around you, it has a variety of psychological effects. One of the most notable is that it increases your impulsivity and irrationality, and also causes you to feel "judged" by other people simply being near you, even inanimate objects feel…

Makes a lot of sense, although in the end it only affects others on the same level in the hierarchy rather than those higher.

Re: Victorian gas lamps that sold cups of hot coffee (2012)

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These days it's next to impossible to find a vendor of beef tea essence.

According to the "foods of England" website (http://www.foodsofengland.co.uk/beeftea.htm), beef tea is

"The clear liquid from beef which has been boiled until fallen, strained and skimmed of all fat. "

You can find a recipe online.

And "beef essence" is just meat extract

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebig%27s_Extract_of_Meat_Com...

"Liebig's Extract of Meat Company, established in the United Kingdom, was the producer of LEMCO brand Liebig's Extract of Meat and the originator of Oxo meat extracts and Oxo beef stock cubes. It was named after Baron Justus von Liebig, the 19th-century German organic chemist who developed and promoted a method for industrial production of beef extract.

In 1847, Justus von Liebig developed a concentrated beef extract in hopes of providing a cheap and nutritious meat substitute, Extractum carnis Liebig, for those unable to afford the real thing.[2] His method was to trim the fat from the meat, break the meat into small particles, boil it with water to form a liquid of 6-8% solids, and then stir it over low heat, until it was reduced to a paste of 80% solids."

https://store.belgianshop.com/syrups/1414-oxo-beef-meat-extr...

Re: Victorian gas lamps that sold cups of hot coffee (2012)

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These days it's next to impossible to find a vendor of beef tea essence.

wouldn't that just be beef soup? Tea basically takes something and soaks it in hot water for a long time. If you are using meat products i assume it automatically become soup (since thats basically what soup is)

Re: Victorian gas lamps that sold cups of hot coffee (2012)

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Having lived in Korea and visited Japan, ubiquitous vending machines is an absolute game-changer. Especially with a choice of hot or cold drinks, vending machines really make life super convenient. Pretty cool to see the Victorians had this idea over a century ago.

Over 10 years ago as a poor student I made a trip to Japan. I spent three weeks in Saitama, which is near-ish to Tokyo, to see if it would be worth it teaching English for a year (spoiler: no). Anyways towards the end of the trip I was running out of money so my meals for that final week consisted of a 100yen (basically $1) chicken breast from their Lawsons (basically their 7-11) and a 100 yen can of warm corn soup f…

Fun factoid: Japan is the world's largest market for 7-11, and Japan's 7-11 (officially Seven & I Holdings) bought the US operations back in 2005.

Re: Victorian gas lamps that sold cups of hot coffee (2012)

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Having lived in Korea and visited Japan, ubiquitous vending machines is an absolute game-changer. Especially with a choice of hot or cold drinks, vending machines really make life super convenient. Pretty cool to see the Victorians had this idea over a century ago.

Over 10 years ago as a poor student I made a trip to Japan. I spent three weeks in Saitama, which is near-ish to Tokyo, to see if it would be worth it teaching English for a year (spoiler: no). Anyways towards the end of the trip I was running out of money so my meals for that final week consisted of a 100yen (basically $1) chicken breast from their Lawsons (basically their 7-11) and a 100 yen can of warm corn soup f…

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Re: Victorian gas lamps that sold cups of hot coffee (2012)

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Is aluminum used for both hot and cold items? I haven't been to Japan so just curious. I was just imagining little disposable thermoses and thinking that maybe that isn't the move - but yeah it's an interesting subject. I try to avoid plastic cups a la $SBUX when I want to just grab a coffee so go to a place with little ceramic espresso demitasses instead of some plastic shell that will become a waste product. I just…

I've only visited; when I've had one, I would call it "warm" rather than "hot", mostly because when I think of hot coffee in the US I think of things that are too hot to drink like that McDonald's lawsuit. Google says there are a few ways around the "hot metal can" problem, like an insulated label. Interestingly enough, Japan has some public trash cans, but not a whole lot in general; the cultural expectation is to b…

Japan used to have quite a few public trash cans, but they were widely removed particularly from public transport as a security theater overreaction to the Tokyo sarin subway attacks in 1995. But drink vending machines do nearly universally have a trash can next to them, which is (supposed to be) used only for recycling cans.

Re: Victorian gas lamps that sold cups of hot coffee (2012)

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have never understood that compulsion, why do people here constantly vandalize anything unsupervised. What is the motivation of these people they don't get anything out of it. Why break something when it wont benefit you to do so. Why do people rub feces all over public restrooms, break vending machines or graffiti hate filled messages on others property. why make to world a worse place for everyone including yours…

If you are looking for a serious answer, vandalism is generally explained as a response to a social hierachy. When you feel you are at the bottom of the pile in relation to others around you, it has a variety of psychological effects. One of the most notable is that it increases your impulsivity and irrationality, and also causes you to feel "judged" by other people simply being near you, even inanimate objects feel…

> vandalism is generally explained as a response to a social hierachy

Japan is even more hierarchical than the US. Their vending machines are fine.

Re: Victorian gas lamps that sold cups of hot coffee (2012)

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Having lived in Korea and visited Japan, ubiquitous vending machines is an absolute game-changer. Especially with a choice of hot or cold drinks, vending machines really make life super convenient. Pretty cool to see the Victorians had this idea over a century ago.

Over 10 years ago as a poor student I made a trip to Japan. I spent three weeks in Saitama, which is near-ish to Tokyo, to see if it would be worth it teaching English for a year (spoiler: no). Anyways towards the end of the trip I was running out of money so my meals for that final week consisted of a 100yen (basically $1) chicken breast from their Lawsons (basically their 7-11) and a 100 yen can of warm corn soup f…

I found your description of Lawsons kind of funny since Japan also has their fair share of 7-11s.

Re: Victorian gas lamps that sold cups of hot coffee (2012)

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are looking for a serious answer, vandalism is generally explained as a response to a social hierachy. When you feel you are at the bottom of the pile in relation to others around you, it has a variety of psychological effects. One of the most notable is that it increases your impulsivity and irrationality, and also causes you to feel "judged" by other people simply being near you, even inanimate objects feel…

> vandalism is generally explained as a response to a social hierachy Japan is even more hierarchical than the US. Their vending machines are fine.

I think the answer might be that the lowest large portion of their society—aside from some marginalized groups and outliers, talking the broad base of their social pyramid—is their working class, not something else even lower. There's enough affinity or in-group feeling among the working class that it's not divided into a whole bunch of categories, with some very low ones indeed that are very clearly and visibly way under the top of that stratum, but into a smaller set that still consider each other fairly similar and "one of us", for where-am-I-on-the-social-hierarchy purposes.

(pure speculation)

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