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Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Is there any reason to believe these will have improved single-core performance? Or are these just more M1 cores in the same package?

FWIW initial Geekbench scores that surfaced today do not show a significant improvement in the single-core performance for M1 Max compared to M1. https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/18/first-m1-max-geekbench-...

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I'm so ridiculously happy with my first generation M1 I have zero desire to upgrade. Kind of wild to consider given how long it has taken to get here with the graveyard of Apple laptops in my closet.

Same. I am impressed with M1 Pro and M1 Max performance numbers. I ordered the new MBP to replace my 2020 M1 MBP, but I bought it with the base M1 Pro and I'm personally way more excited about 32gb, 1000 nits brightness, function row keys, etc.

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I thought the memory was one of the more interesting bits here. My 2-year-old Intel MBP has 64 GB, and 8 GB of additional memory on the GPU. True, on the M1 Max you don't have to copy back and forth between CPU and GPU thanks to integrated memory, but the new MBP still has less total memory than my 2-year-old Intel MBP. And it seems they just barely managed to get to 64 GiB. The whole processor chip is surrounded by…

Just some genuine honest curiosity here; how many workloads actually require 64gb of ram? For instance, I'm an amateur in the music production scene, and I know that sampling heavy work flows benefit from being able to load more audio clips fully into RAM rather than streaming them from disk. But 64g seems a tad overkill even for that. I guess for me I would prefer an emphasis on speed/bandwidth rather than size, but…

I ran 512GB on my home server, 256GB on my desktop and 128GB on small factor desktop that I take with me to summer cottage.

Some of my projects work with big in memory databases. Add regular tasks and video processing on top and there you go.

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How is it disingenuous - defined in my dictionary as not candid - when we know precisely which chips they are comparing against? They are giving Mac laptop users information to try to persuade them to upgrade from their 2017 MacBook Pros and this is probably the most relevant comparison.

I'm pretty sure they are comparing them with 2019/2020 MacBook Pros, which apparently have chips originally launched 2017.

Looks to me like they are comparing against 2020 MBPs (at least for 13 inch) which use 10nm Ice Lake so nothing to do with 2017 at all!!

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980 pro maxes at 7.

But it's also been around for at least a year. And upcoming pcie 5 SSDs will up that to 10-14GBps. I'm saying Apple might have wanted to emphasise their more standout achievements. Such as on the CPU front, where they're likely to be well ahead for a year - competition won't catch up until AMD starts shipping 5nm Zen4 CPUs in Q3/Q4 2022.

Apple has a well over 5 year advantage when compared to their competition.

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Is there a tradeoff in terms of power consumption?

Huge, apparently. I just spent a bit over $7,000 for a top-spec model and was surprised to read that it comes with a 140 watt power adapter. Prior to my current M1 MBP, my daily driver was a maxed-out 16" MBP. It's a solid computer, but it functions just as well as a space heater. And its power adapter is only 100 watts.

the power supply is for charging the battery faster. the new magsafe 3 system can charge with more wattage than usb-c, as per the announcement. usb-c max wattage is 100 watts, which was the previous limiting factor for battery charge.

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Isn’t most of the components in MacBooks recyclable? If I remember correctly, Apple has a recycling program for old Macs so it’s not like these machines goes to landfill when their past their time or broken.

AFAIK their recycling is shredding everything, no matter if it still works and separating gold and some other metals.

When you trade-in your Mac you are asked if the enclosure is free of dents, turns-on, battery holds charge etc.

Strange that they would ask these questions if they were simply going to shred the device.

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Video game consoles have been using integrated graphics for at least 15 years now, since Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.

You are mistaken. On both PS3 and Xbox 360 CPU and GPU is on different chips and made by different vendors(CPU made by IBM and GPU by Nvidia in case of PS3 and CPU by IBM and GPU by ATI for Xbox 360). Nonetheless in PS4/XOne generation they both use single die with unified memory for everything and their GPU could be called integrated.

For the 360, from 2010 production (when they introduced the 45nm shrink), the CPU and GPU was merged into a single chip.

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Just because you're not getting that panel back doesn't mean it's destroyed and wasted. I figure that these policies simplify their front-line technician jobs, getting faster turnaround times and higher success rates. Then they have a different department that sorts through all the removed/broken parts, repairing and using parts from them. No idea if this is what they actually do, but it would be the smart way to han…

It seems like they will rather shredded perfectly good parts than to let thirt party repair shops use them to help people at sane prices: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/10/07/apple-g... https://www.vice.com/en/article/yp73jw/apple-recycling-iphon...

So because a company stole devices to sell them makes Apple the bad guy?
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