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Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Post by Jtsummers »

twalla wrote: post #49
asimpletune wrote: post #25

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Is it? I think the notch is just where the menu already is, so it's sort of a moot point. I'd love if my current Mac camera were integrated into the space that I already use for the menu bar.

I pretty much live in a fullscreen tmux session and a fullscreen browser window so the notch is pretty lame in my opinion, maybe iterm can put some fun stats or a clock there but to me it's basically like 2 lines of lost screen real estate - not enough to dissuade me from getting it since they put the touch bar where it belongs (the trash), added real ports and fixed the keyboard.

From the screenshots and images, it won't impact users like us. When in fullscreen with a hidden menubar, the area left and right of the notch goes black. It's exactly like the current situation in that case, and the only benefit is that when you choose to view the menubar it doesn't eat into the space occupied by the program-in-use.

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Post by onemoresoop »

Oh, notch you again. I'd rather they had a camera slide up from behind but am not sure how a good idea that is either, moving parts are fragile..

Oh well, at least the machine is performant and they got rid of the fancy but useless touch bar.

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Post by laurent92 »

asimpletune wrote: post #50

So, as far as I can tell, they listened to every single complaint people had about the last generation of pro Macs. These are in every meaning of the word pro machines. Now, they're so pro, I can't imagine why anyone would need one, unless they do multi-media professionally, or work exclusively in Xcode. I can't even believe they compromised on size and weight in order to deliver something more pro. It's a complaint…

Unfortunately, they compromised on price. A 16GB version is immediately 3000€ in Europe, which is a lot for a less well-off area than USA.

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Post by kgermino »

rvz wrote: post #64
dkonofalski wrote: post #47

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Curious as to why? You get more screen real estate with the notch and, at worst, you have the same display size as before? What's the issue?

Not only the notch is an absolute disaster, the thickness is at most; woeful. The CPUs are outstanding, but that laptop itself is a monstrosity from the 2006 Macbook Pro days. Finally the price makes it even more disappointing for what is on offer. Another missed opportunity.

I'm not bothered by the notch, but I understand people having different aesthetic preferences. Thickness seems like an odd complaint though. As far as I can tell they are about the same thickness as the previous models (1.55 cm). Am I missing something?

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Post by emsy »

dkonofalski wrote: post #39
katsura wrote: post #26

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Not to mention that I, for example, have the top bar automatically hidden on my mac. Meaning, if I ever decided to buy one of these, I'd have to have it always shown, or I won't be able to click on some of my browser tabs? How does full screen mode work with this, I wonder?

I would imagine that it letterboxes the display for any apps that don't support the extended display.

Hopefully they will stop the mouse at the letterbox border, otherwise it would be terrible UX.

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Post by realityking »

m_ke wrote: post #5
sand500 wrote: post #4

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They would rather you buy apple watch + airpods

I have both, unfortunately I can't store any music on the watch unless I use apple music.

Spotify now also allows downloading music to the Apple Watch https://newsroom.spotify.com/2021-05-21/enjoy-more-ways-than...

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Post by robertoandred »

drdaeman wrote: post #52
GcVmvNhBsU wrote: post #28

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How is that a compromise? You either have a massive black bar at the top of the laptop, or a small notch that allows for more screen real estate.

I suspect this notch is going to be a problem for a significant number of full-screen applications that never assumed there would be something like that. Although that'd be probably mostly games, and I don't think notch is going to be a primary issue for those.

I'm sure old fullscreen apps won't even be told about the new areas at the top of the screen. They'll just think they're on a regular 16x10 display.

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Post by cbm-vic-20 »

incrudible wrote: post #69
ceejayoz wrote: post #66

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> The notch is a huge bezel with cutouts. The notch is a tiny part of what remains of the previous bezel. That space isn't usable on an older M1 MBP, either.

It's not about usable space . It's about the look. A smaller bezel doesn't lead to a better appearance by itself, but even then I'm sure they could've made the bezel smaller either way. However, the notch isn't made to be of minimal size. It's intrusive. It's telling me: I'm here, deal with it.

Maybe someone can make an extension that will keep the rows where the notch lives black, and tell the OS that those rows aren't there. Problem solved.

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Post by selectodude »

rvz wrote: post #64
dkonofalski wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious as to why? You get more screen real estate with the notch and, at worst, you have the same display size as before? What's the issue?

Not only the notch is an absolute disaster, the thickness is at most; woeful. The CPUs are outstanding, but that laptop itself is a monstrosity from the 2006 Macbook Pro days. Finally the price makes it even more disappointing for what is on offer. Another missed opportunity.

Get a MacBook Air then?

Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Post by ceejayoz »

incrudible wrote: post #69
ceejayoz wrote: post #66

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> The notch is a huge bezel with cutouts. The notch is a tiny part of what remains of the previous bezel. That space isn't usable on an older M1 MBP, either.

It's not about usable space . It's about the look. A smaller bezel doesn't lead to a better appearance by itself, but even then I'm sure they could've made the bezel smaller either way. However, the notch isn't made to be of minimal size. It's intrusive. It's telling me: I'm here, deal with it.

> It's not about usable space.

Why shouldn't it be?

That space was black on the old MBP. It's black on the new MBP. I've now got two newly usable strips where the bezel used to be. The top menu bar is already left/right split, so it fits fairly naturally in there; my movies won't be any bigger or smaller with it.

I went from iPhone SE to 13 and the notch there was a nothingburger. Thirty seconds after the "oh right, there's a notch" it's mostly forgotten.

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