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At Netflix, a star and employees pressure a top executive over Dave Chappelle

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Re: At Netflix, a star and employees pressure a top executive over Dave Chappelle

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Its interesting to me that at one time the idea of separating politics and work used to be standard decorum. I do think we as human beings obviously can not shut off our feelings, its important for companies to realize this and allow their employees to disagree and express themselves. In the end, its still up to employees to be mature about it.

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#32

Whether or not you agree with Netflix or not, they are being hypocritical and inconsistent. They went and removed a bunch of shows for having blackface last year (from what I can see, used typically or maybe always for comedy and often in a way that's making fun of racism.) [1] Yet now their CEO is defending this new show and saying, "Adults can watch violence, assault and abuse – or enjoy shocking stand-up comedy –…

I'd say the situations look worse here. Most of the blackface I'm aware of that got removed was mocking racism (community), or the lack of nuance around what makes something racism (always sunny). Both were fairly obviously not condoning it.

This content directly mocks trans people and makes assertions that they're not legitimate. It's as far as I can tell, not a fictitious situation, just part of a routine. Seems like a real blunder to greenlight this imo. This is lacking nuance to the level of making fun of asians for having squinty eyes or black people for big lips.

Re: At Netflix, a star and employees pressure a top executive over Dave Chappelle

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting speculation, is it based on anything at all? Louis CK was highly criticized for going back on tour by the same people that criticized him for the sexual misconduct he admitted to in 2017.

How many people are mad at Joe Rogan on this issue at this moment? None, they're all on Chappelle right now, it'll be someone else soon. One other note, on CK, I wonder the overlap between people who want him punished forever and those who support rehabilitation of actual felons.

How many? Quite a few, I guess you're REALLY out of the loop. This is from 3 days ago: https://www.foxnews.com/media/the-view-hosts-clash-joe-rogan...

Thanks for proving yourself wrong, I guess it was just blind speculation.

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting speculation, is it based on anything at all? Louis CK was highly criticized for going back on tour by the same people that criticized him for the sexual misconduct he admitted to in 2017.

Pretty big difference between saying something inappropriate during a comedic performance and jacking off in front of non-consenting people.

And one similarity: Louis CK is still highly criticized for going back on tour by the same people that criticized him 5-7 years ago. That is what was being discussed, scroll up to learn more.

Re: At Netflix, a star and employees pressure a top executive over Dave Chappelle

#35

Dear Netflix: Please fire every single individual that walks out. There are thousands of individuals who have been rejected from roles at your company that would look at this situation in a rational light.

So you're calling on Netflix to "cancel" these employees because they're expressing political views you don't agree with? And the political views you're so bothered by are... employees calling on Netflix to "cancel" someone who expressed political views they don't agree with? How is this not just flagrant hypocrisy

>How is this not just flagrant hypocrisy

It's not at all. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Re: At Netflix, a star and employees pressure a top executive over Dave Chappelle

#36

Whether or not you agree with Netflix or not, they are being hypocritical and inconsistent. They went and removed a bunch of shows for having blackface last year (from what I can see, used typically or maybe always for comedy and often in a way that's making fun of racism.) [1] Yet now their CEO is defending this new show and saying, "Adults can watch violence, assault and abuse – or enjoy shocking stand-up comedy –…

I'd say the situations look worse here. Most of the blackface I'm aware of that got removed was mocking racism (community), or the lack of nuance around what makes something racism (always sunny). Both were fairly obviously not condoning it. This content directly mocks trans people and makes assertions that they're not legitimate. It's as far as I can tell, not a fictitious situation, just part of a routine. Seems li…

Am I misremembering or was the community blackface episode actually blueface.

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say the situations look worse here. Most of the blackface I'm aware of that got removed was mocking racism (community), or the lack of nuance around what makes something racism (always sunny). Both were fairly obviously not condoning it. This content directly mocks trans people and makes assertions that they're not legitimate. It's as far as I can tell, not a fictitious situation, just part of a routine. Seems li…

Am I misremembering or was the community blackface episode actually blueface.

Definitely black. Chang is roleplaying as a dark elf in D&D and goes full black face. He claims it is not a racial thing but is immediately ejected from the group.

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say the situations look worse here. Most of the blackface I'm aware of that got removed was mocking racism (community), or the lack of nuance around what makes something racism (always sunny). Both were fairly obviously not condoning it. This content directly mocks trans people and makes assertions that they're not legitimate. It's as far as I can tell, not a fictitious situation, just part of a routine. Seems li…

Am I misremembering or was the community blackface episode actually blueface.

Here's a link: https://youtu.be/oRkcsuMcrEA?t=79

Re: At Netflix, a star and employees pressure a top executive over Dave Chappelle

#40

Why do companies fear loud Twitter mobs or small groups of vocal activist employees? These companies can simply ignore them or fire them if they aren’t doing their job. It is best for tech companies to be politically neutral. After all, half the country and much of the world don’t hold progressive Bay Area views. Serving and representing them is just as important and employees need to maturely deal with it or quit.

A legal precedent was set by González v. Abercrombie & Fitch. Being seen on the wrong side of the diversity issue becomes a legal liability that everybody avoids. Issues that everybody avoids morph into cultural dogma via groupthink. The role of Twitter mobs is to buildup and maintain pressure, which, at the very least, raises the concrete risk of legal damages. See, for example, the recent Tesla $137M discrimination verdict.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abercrombie_%26_Fitch#Employme...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalez_v._Abercrombie_%26_Fi....

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