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Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Post by lemoncucumber »

spicybright wrote: post #186
bla3 wrote: post #82

This is about the processors, not the laptops, so commenting on the chips instead. They look great, but they look like they're the M1 design, just more of it. Which is plenty for a laptop! But it'll be interesting to see what they'll do for their desktops. Most of the additional chip area went into more GPUs and special-purpose video codec hardware. It's "just" two more cores than the vanilla M1, and some of the effi…

I'm going to sound dumb for this, but how difficult do any of you think it would be to make a computer with 2 M1 chips? Or even 4?

The M1 is a system-on-a-chip so AIUI there's a bunch of stuff on there that you wouldn't want two of.

Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Post by magicalist »

neogodless wrote: post #56
adtac wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the comparison was only on laptops, but still impressive if they did that with 70% (?) less power

Well, no - they immediately followed the discrete laptop graphic comparison with a desktop graphic comparison, highlighting how much more power they draw for "the same" performance.

> Well, no - they immediately followed the discrete laptop graphic comparison with a desktop graphic comparison

pretty sure the comparison was with "the most powerful PC laptop we could find", which makes sense because they then talked about how much it was throttled when running only on battery while the new M1 is not.

Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Post by klelatti »

wmf wrote: post #193
klelatti wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does either have a 10 core CPU or large cache memory?

Yes, the 5950X has 16 big CPU cores and 64 MB of L3 cache.

My mistake. But it doesn't have a 32 core GPU!

Agreed these counts look high - but the fact that they can slot this into a $3,499 laptop is remarkable and must say something about the cost effectiveness of TSMC 5nm process.

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Post by sys_64738 »

spicybright wrote: post #186
bla3 wrote: post #82

This is about the processors, not the laptops, so commenting on the chips instead. They look great, but they look like they're the M1 design, just more of it. Which is plenty for a laptop! But it'll be interesting to see what they'll do for their desktops. Most of the additional chip area went into more GPUs and special-purpose video codec hardware. It's "just" two more cores than the vanilla M1, and some of the effi…

I'm going to sound dumb for this, but how difficult do any of you think it would be to make a computer with 2 M1 chips? Or even 4?

I think the issue is OS management of tasks to prevent cpu 1 from having to access memory of cpu 2.

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Post by [deleted] »

jeswin wrote: post #114
_the_inflator wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that Apple took a subtle, not so subtle stand: power consumption has to do with environmental impact.

Apple almost single-handedly made computing devices non-repairable or upgradable; across their own product line and the industry in general due to their outsized influence.

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Post by the_jeremy »

Grustaf wrote: post #176
lisper wrote: post #105

"Apple’s Commitment to the Environment" > Today, Apple is carbon neutral for global corporate operations, and by 2030, plans to have net-zero climate impact across the entire business, which includes manufacturing supply chains and all product life cycles. This also means that every chip Apple creates, from design to manufacturing, will be 100 percent carbon neutral. But what they won't do is put the chip in an expan…

This only makes sense if you presume people throw away their laptops when they replace them after "a few years". Given the incredibly high second hand value of macbooks, I think most people sell them or hand them down.

My F500 company has a 5 year tech refresh policy, and old laptops are trashed, not donated or resold.

Re: Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors

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Post by cormacrelf »

nharada wrote: post #76
smoldesu wrote: post #52

Great update, I think Apple did the right thing by ignoring developers this time. 70% of their customers are either creatives who rely on proprietary apps, or people who just want a bigger iPhone. Those people will be really happy with this upgrade, but I have to wonder what the other 30% is thinking. It'll be interesting to see how Apple continues to slowly shut out portions of their prosumer market in the interest…

I agree this is very targeted towards the creative market (i.e. SD card port, etc), but I'm curious as a developer what you would have liked to see included that isn't in this release. I guess personally having better ML training support would be nice, since I suspect these M1 Max chips could be absolute monsters for some model training/fine-tuning workloads. But I can't think of anything design-wise really.

The big ticket items: Hardware-accelerated VSCode cursor animation. Dedicated button for exiting vim. Additional twelve function keys, bringing the total to 24; further, vectorised function key operations, so you can execute up to 12 "nmap :set background=dark" statements in parallel. Dedicated encode and decode engines that support YAML, TOML and JWT JSON. A neural engine that can approximate polynomial time register allocation almost instantly. The CPU recognises when you are running Autoconf `./configure` checks and fast-forwards to the end.

I would also like a decent LSP implementation for Siri, but the question was about hardware.

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