Apple headline: New chip is faster than old chip.
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Apple’s new M1 Pro and M1 Max processors
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#52Great update, I think Apple did the right thing by ignoring developers this time. 70% of their customers are either creatives who rely on proprietary apps, or people who just want a bigger iPhone. Those people will be really happy with this upgrade, but I have to wonder what the other 30% is thinking. It'll be interesting to see how Apple continues to slowly shut out portions of their prosumer market in the interest of making A Better Laptop.
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#53Are these M1 Pro/Max based on the A14 or A15? Does “M1” == “A14” or does it mean “M1” == “5nm TSMC node”?
m1 is already very different to A14/15. Why do you think they are "based" on the mobile SoCs?
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#54As is typical for apple, the phrasing is somewhat intentionally misleading (like my favorite apple announcement - "introducing the best iphone yet" - as if other companies are going backwards?). The wording is of course carefully chosen to be technically true, but to the average consumer, this might imply that these are more powerful than any CPU apple has ever offered (which of course is not true).
This time, they showed which laptop was used to compare the performance on the bottom left corner during presentation
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The Pro and Max can drive 2 XDR displays.
> XDR What does that mean?
It's their marketing term for their HDR tech. The XDR displays are their flagship media productivity monitors. The new screens in the 14/16 inch MacBooks have "XDR" tech as well.
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#56Did they really just claim 30-series tier performance on the max GPU? If that's true that would be insane!
the comparison was only on laptops, but still impressive if they did that with 70% (?) less power
Well, no - they immediately followed the discrete laptop graphic comparison with a desktop graphic comparison, highlighting how much more power they draw for "the same" performance.
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#57Is there any VR for the Mac? Seems like the machine is more-than-ready for VR!
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#58The benchmark to power consumption comparisons were very interesting. It seemed very un-Apple to be making such direct comparisons to competitors, especially when the Razer Blade Advanced had slightly better performance with far higher power consumption. I feel like typically Apple just says "Fastest we've ever made, it's so thin, so many nits, you'll love it" and leaves it at that. I'll be very curious to see those…
I think that Apple took a subtle, not so subtle stand: power consumption has to do with environmental impact.
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#59M1 Pro Max is only $200 more. I'm tempted, but do we think it will be more power hungry under the same workload than the Pro?
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#60> 140W USB-C Power Adapter Wait huh? My current 16" Intel Core i9 is only 95watts. Does this mean all my existing USB-C power infrastructure won't work?
My guess is it will work like using a 65W adapter on a Mac that prefers 95W. It will charge if you're not doing much but it will drain the battery if you're going full tilt.
Just like USB-C cables can differ in capacity I’m finding a need to scrutinize my wall chargers more now. A bunch of white boxes but some can keep my MacBook Pro charged even when on all day calls and some can’t. With PD the size isn’t a great indicator anymore either.