When a woman does it, it's to expose the patriarchy. When men do it it's a scandal. Pen names have existed for centuries. Who cares?
Female thriller writer who won €1m literary prize revealed to be three men
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#12When a woman does it, it's to expose the patriarchy. When men do it it's a scandal. Pen names have existed for centuries. Who cares?
I am not sure if the prize is intentionally limited to women --it sounds like it isn't--but I dont think we want people claiming prizes this way. Consider that there are competitions for eg. high school students, first time authors, etc.
Re: Female thriller writer who won €1m literary prize revealed to be three men
#13When a woman does it, it's to expose the patriarchy. When men do it it's a scandal. Pen names have existed for centuries. Who cares?
It's not about using a pen name. They are free to write under a feminine pseudonym (reverse George Elliot style). I am not sure if the prize is intentionally limited to women --it sounds like it isn't--but I dont think we want people claiming prizes this way. Consider that there are competitions for eg. high school students, first time authors, etc.
Your argument would hold if the article actually mentioned anything like that, but all that's being discussed is if it was a marketing strategy or not.
This is peak hypocrisy when we're supposed to believe that women are constantly held back, but accuse men of using a woman pen name to sell more.
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#14[0]https://www.abc.es/cultura/libros/abci-carmen-mola-elena-fer...
Re: Female thriller writer who won €1m literary prize revealed to be three men
#15How is anyone surprised that this series was written by three middle aged men, and not a woman?
Re: Female thriller writer who won €1m literary prize revealed to be three men
#16> Beatriz Gimeno, a feminist, writer, activist – and former head of one of Spain’s national equality bodies, the Women’s Institute – attacked the men for creating a female persona in their publicity for Carmen Mola books, over several years
Cross-gender pen names are an common tradition. Have they also condemned the Bronte sisters or George Elliot or George Sand for creating a different gender persona for their writing? Or JK Rowling and Andre Norton literally changing their name for marketing purposes so that their gender would not be apparent on the books cover while they were still unknown as authors?
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cross-gender pen names are an common tradition. Have they also condemned the Bronte sisters or George Elliot or George Sand for creating a different gender persona for their writing? Or JK Rowling and Andre Norton literally changing their name for marketing purposes so that their gender would not be apparent on the books cover while they were still unknown as authors?
Men outrank women on the privilege stack. A woman adopting a male persona is "punching up"; a man adopting a female persona is "punching down".
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#18Based on the linked Spanish ABC article [0], it seems like it was well known that Carmen Mola was a pseudonym and they were even widely suspected to be a man. [0] https://www.abc.es/cultura/libros/abci-carmen-mola-elena-fer...
Re: Female thriller writer who won €1m literary prize revealed to be three men
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cross-gender pen names are an common tradition. Have they also condemned the Bronte sisters or George Elliot or George Sand for creating a different gender persona for their writing? Or JK Rowling and Andre Norton literally changing their name for marketing purposes so that their gender would not be apparent on the books cover while they were still unknown as authors?
Men outrank women on the privilege stack. A woman adopting a male persona is "punching up"; a man adopting a female persona is "punching down".
Re: Female thriller writer who won €1m literary prize revealed to be three men
#20When a woman does it, it's to expose the patriarchy. When men do it it's a scandal. Pen names have existed for centuries. Who cares?
It's not about using a pen name. They are free to write under a feminine pseudonym (reverse George Elliot style). I am not sure if the prize is intentionally limited to women --it sounds like it isn't--but I dont think we want people claiming prizes this way. Consider that there are competitions for eg. high school students, first time authors, etc.