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Re: NixOS on Framework Laptop

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Post by phaer »

globular-toast wrote: post #185
jph wrote: post #13

Framework + NixOS is the most exciting hardware + OS going IMHO. If someone wants to do a crowdfunding or devpay or similar to make them work out of the box together, I will gladly donate or pay.

Replace NixOS with Guix and I agree!

I'd love to see Guix with SystemD, but there's no work going in that direction that I am aware of. While I appreciate the work on [GNU Shepherd](https://www.gnu.org/software/shepherd/manual/shepherd.html), especially their documentation quality and the use of scheme instead of the rather obscure nix language, learning yet another init system on top of a new distro while systemd seemingly has won most of the market makes NixOS more attractive. At least to me

Re: NixOS on Framework Laptop

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Post by mekster »

Why not just spin up an adhoc build server on demand and use whatever laptop you want to?

I don't know about the compilation procedure but how hard is it to spin up a beefy CPU intensive server ($300/mo = $0.2 per 30 min use), let it git pull your work, compile, upload the binary to some storage, notify you and shut down automatically?

This way, you can close your laptop and move while compiling.

Much cheaper than not being able to choose the laptop you want the most.

These days, you can be a bit more creative than do it all on your machine.

Re: NixOS on Framework Laptop

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

mekster wrote: post #192

Why not just spin up an adhoc build server on demand and use whatever laptop you want to? I don't know about the compilation procedure but how hard is it to spin up a beefy CPU intensive server ($300/mo = $0.2 per 30 min use), let it git pull your work, compile, upload the binary to some storage, notify you and shut down automatically? This way, you can close your laptop and move while compiling. Much cheaper than no…

>but how hard is it to spin up a beefy CPU intensive server ($300/mo = $0.2 per 30 min use), let it git pull your work, compile, upload the binary to some storage, notify you and shut down automatically?

Related famous last words: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

Re: NixOS on Framework Laptop

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Post by mekster »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #193
mekster wrote: post #192

Why not just spin up an adhoc build server on demand and use whatever laptop you want to? I don't know about the compilation procedure but how hard is it to spin up a beefy CPU intensive server ($300/mo = $0.2 per 30 min use), let it git pull your work, compile, upload the binary to some storage, notify you and shut down automatically? This way, you can close your laptop and move while compiling. Much cheaper than no…

>but how hard is it to spin up a beefy CPU intensive server ($300/mo = $0.2 per 30 min use), let it git pull your work, compile, upload the binary to some storage, notify you and shut down automatically? Related famous last words: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

How is it related? I'm not dismissing some business idea but merely providing an idea to make personal computing easier and I'm not giving lazy-to-accomplish idea?

Re: NixOS on Framework Laptop

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

mekster wrote: post #194
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but how hard is it to spin up a beefy CPU intensive server ($300/mo = $0.2 per 30 min use), let it git pull your work, compile, upload the binary to some storage, notify you and shut down automatically? Related famous last words: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

How is it related? I'm not dismissing some business idea but merely providing an idea to make personal computing easier and I'm not giving lazy-to-accomplish idea?

Because some people want to just open their laptop and do everything locally for whatever reason, not be dependent on an internet connection and managing cloud clusters and related expenses.

Re: NixOS on Framework Laptop

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Post by hedshodd »

mosermint wrote: post #189

Perhaps a dumb question, but why are NixOs and Guix configured using a programming language and not with a configuration file?

The "neat" thing about a config like that is to use incredibly basic programming things, like simply having variables, lists/arrays, arithmetic, string manipulation, etc..

As a basic example, I could have a list of basic packages that I want on all of my machines, and then depending on which machine my config is being deployed to, I might extend or shrink that list using actual code, because that list is represented as a an array or a linked list and I can directly manipulate that (though, at least in Nix I think everything's immutable, so you would technically only use that initial list to create a new list from it).

Re: NixOS on Framework Laptop

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Post by raihansaputra »

Cyphonetic wrote: post #183
raihansaputra wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah the inconsistency is what worries me. But my concern is that the CMD position (ALT on other keyboards, right beside space) is more ergonomic than the CTRL position, especially on laptops.

I strongly recommend binding CTRL to Caps lock. It's pretty ergonomic, and just feels natural. Also, that would force you in a different mindset, aiding in differentiation of your Mac and Linux

Yeah I might do that. Currently on Mac I have Caps Lock remapped to a "Hyper" key to act as another layer, so I get "Vim" (jkl; instead of hjkl) arrows. Might move the layer to spacebar instead.

Re: NixOS on Framework Laptop

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Post by mekster »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #195
mekster wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it related? I'm not dismissing some business idea but merely providing an idea to make personal computing easier and I'm not giving lazy-to-accomplish idea?

Because some people want to just open their laptop and do everything locally for whatever reason, not be dependent on an internet connection and managing cloud clusters and related expenses.

The author is a programmer for sake. Writing a little script sounded worthwhile.

Also, what expense? $0.2 per compile instead of buying a laptop with better CPU?

Re: NixOS on Framework Laptop

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Post by fartcannon »

least wrote: post #162
fartcannon wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Widely accepted by who? Mac users? It's nothing more than what you're used to.

I suppose one can certainly adapt to mostly any sort of input device given enough time, but that does not mean that they're done well. Most people that have used trackpads in windows/linux land prior to the last 8 years or so could easily tell you how horrendous they were (and some still are). A lot of this comes down to software, of course. Microsoft's precision touchpad drivers were a game changer for Windows devic…

You're speaking for an awful lot of people. Maybe HN skews towards Apple fans and therefore might just possibly have a few extra upvotes for Apples defaults?
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