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Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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Post by saddlerustle »

jurmous wrote: post #12
djbebs wrote: post #3

Shame that local councils are once again meddling in things they have no business being in.

Amsterdam is a city being overrun by tourists and that is something local councils should be able to control. Locals have difficulty to find homes as prices are raising to high levels. https://nltimes.nl/2016/10/13/amsterdam-center-overrun-touri... https://www.travelandtourworld.com/news/article/amsterdam-is... https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/01/amsterdam-house-prices...

Maybe, just maybe, high prices is instead because Amsterdam is building about half as much housing as it did 40 years ago, and significantly less than population growth.

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Post by yreg »

gerikson wrote: post #18
jikbd wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah… who are the owners of a flat to decide what to do with it, eh?

A flat owner is not an atomic actor. If you purchase a flat, it's under the implicit assumption that you or your family will be the only ones occupying it. I live in Sweden and most "condo" associations (bostadsrätt) have rules regarding short-term hires and subletting. I imagine it is the same in the Netherlands.

>If you purchase a flat, it's under the implicit assumption

There might be such implicit assumption somewhere, but it for sure isn't a general one.

I for one don't have any such expectations regarding the neighbours in my condo. (I don't live in Sweden/Netherlands though.)

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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Post by jimvdv »

saddlerustle wrote: post #8

If I were a western city, I would simply build enough housing for residents and visitors.

That’s very easy to say, much harder to do.

Also you still want to keep tourist concentrations low in certain areas to keep neighbourhoods liveable.

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Post by hihihihi1234 »

jikbd wrote: post #7
difosfor wrote: post #4

Good riddance

Yeah… who are the owners of a flat to decide what to do with it, eh?

So you'd have no problem if your neighbours turned their flat into a brothel and a meth lab? Because that's the logical extension of your argument.

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Post by bartread »

saddlerustle wrote: post #8

If I were a western city, I would simply build enough housing for residents and visitors.

I don't especially mind tourists in moderate numbers - after all, from time to time, I play the tourist myself. However, I live and work in Cambridge, and if we were to put what you suggest into practice the city would become an absolutely intolerable place to be for everyone.

AirBnb may or may not be a big problem here but, if it is, it's a subset of a bigger problem: buy to let. I'd like to see buy to let severely curtailed within the city, as it's certainly driving up already high prices for buyers.

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Post by em500 »

saddlerustle wrote: post #8

If I were a western city, I would simply build enough housing for residents and visitors.

If you were in the city government of a large western city, you'd know there's a huge number of often conflicting demands of the citizenry. Most of them do not support building enough housing for all potential visitors. And while many are not explicitly opposed to increased housing for future residents, few will want that to happen close to where they live.

If you go directly against the wishes of most of the residents, you will not find yourself in the city government for very long. So I think this "simply build enough housing" is only a good solution in internet forum comments.

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Post by Hendrikto »

saddlerustle wrote: post #20
majjam wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No you cant, there isn't any room.

Yes there is. Amsterdam has about a quarter the population density of Paris

And you think that means 3/4 of the plots are empty?

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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Post by jikbd »

this-pony wrote: post #22
jikbd wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah… who are the owners of a flat to decide what to do with it, eh?

Yea... who are the neighbors of those flats to decide to protest loud and rude tourists that disturb the piece and quiet of their homes, eh?

We already have laws against that.
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