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Why does it seem like the controversial statements that are being picked out are what is being fixated on? They seem to intentionally ignore the surrounding context of the message he’s actually trying to convey.
"Cuties" was fine, but a stand-up skit is where they draw the line. Glad they have their priorities straightened out.
For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…
The only positive mainstream review I’ve seen of his special was not all that positive, but that it was really a Rorschach test for your political leanings. What are the chances not one mainstream outlet had a positive review, was it really that unfunny? He makes jokes about Jews, and Blacks, and Whites, that are completely overshadowed by Twitter (which is not a real place) claiming it was entirely anti-trans. No on…
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> Let the free-markets determine who should be cancelled. What would that look like though? I think there's a somewhat valid conversation to be had about cancel culture, but this point comes up over and over, and I'm constantly wondering: if people criticizing speech in public places like Twitter isn't the free market, and Netflix employees collectively advocating that they don't want to host the speech isn't the fre…
> What would that look like though? Certainly not through 1000 Netflix employees representing the free-market.
Netflix refuses to carry an awful lot of content. Is it a violation of the free market of speech that they're not streaming everyone else's responses to David Chappelle? I mean, I personally haven't been contacted by them to make a video with them about this debate, does that mean Netflix is censoring my voice and subverting the marketplace of ideas by refusing to stream my videos? The problem is that if we go too far down the road of deciding Netflix is violating the marketplace of ideas by choosing not to host certain ideas on a curated service, we end up with really silly conclusions.
I'd be a bit more charitable to this idea if we were talking about a general platform like Youtube, or if we were talking about a platform with outsized monopoly-levels of control over video content. But it's absurd to say that the marketplace of ideas means Netflix is obligated to pay people to produce content for them and to promote that content; that would be a huge violation of Freedom of Association, and it would just be completely unworkable as a business model.
And if Netflix isn't obligated to pay for and host everyone's content, then who else has more right to have input into what Netflix does host than its employees, owners, and stakeholders?
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> They work at FAANG. Pretty sure they'll be able to get new jobs very quickly I think companies are acutely aware and growingly suspicious of employee activism. Would you want to hire an activist for your organization? It would be a red flag to me as the activist employees could second guess any decisions made at any level of the organization and work to organize to cause a disruption. It's just not an effective way…
you've got the importances inverted. letting companies do as they please is no way to run a society. people first, then companies. it's this sort of inversion that's gotten us into the mess of a society we're facing now.
Same thing with the companies, they hire people to do work just like people hire other people. If hired people don't want to work - that's fine, just let them go. I am pretty content with this way of society and don't see how changing it can make it any better.
Its really tough being a comedian. Generally, in society there are lines drawn over which you must not cross. Comedians typically get to push those boundaries under the guise of comedy or free-thinking or equal-opportunity racism or bigotry. Generally, I am totally supportive of that as it is thought-provoking and conversation inducing. It's better to bring uncomfortable subjects out into the open and make fun of the…
Every other comedian I know is doing fine as well.
Even the "canceled" comedians seem to be doing just fine.
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> What would that look like though? Certainly not through 1000 Netflix employees representing the free-market.
Should 1000 Netflix employees be able to represent what content Netflix hosts? Netflix refuses to carry an awful lot of content. Is it a violation of the free market of speech that they're not streaming everyone else's responses to David Chappelle? I mean, I personally haven't been contacted by them to make a video with them about this debate, does that mean Netflix is censoring my voice and subverting the marketplac…
Consider -- just for a moment -- that you are not Dave Chappelle.
But if you were an entertainer with his appeal and fanbase, then I don't doubt that Netflix would reach out to you to try to sign you to some specials.
In other words, Netflix is not a pez-dispenser of views on political issues. It's an entertainment platform for the entire world. So no, extremist groups within Netflix don't get to stand between Chapelle and his audience, deplatforming him just because they have a job at Netflix.
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Should 1000 Netflix employees be able to represent what content Netflix hosts? Netflix refuses to carry an awful lot of content. Is it a violation of the free market of speech that they're not streaming everyone else's responses to David Chappelle? I mean, I personally haven't been contacted by them to make a video with them about this debate, does that mean Netflix is censoring my voice and subverting the marketplac…
> I mean, I haven't been contacted by them to make a video with them Consider -- just for a moment -- that you are not Dave Chappelle. But if you were an entertainer with his appeal and fanbase, then I don't doubt that Netflix would reach out to you to try to sign you to some specials. In other words, Netflix is not a pez-dispenser of views on political issues. It's an entertainment platform for the entire world. So…
And who decides what that line is? Netflix, right?
Netflix ultimately gets to decide what its standards are for the content it hosts, that's the only sensible conclusion we can draw. It's the only setup that makes sense in a free market, companies get to choose what products they produce and host.
Similarly, Netflix can look at feedback from its customers and other clients, and it can look at feedback from its workers, and it can take that feedback into account when making decisions. Just like it does for literally every other business decision that it makes.
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More black trans women were violently murdered in 2020 than in any other year since HRC began tracking. https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-tra... 2021 is looking to surpass that... Part of his criticism was centered around how the 'alphabet people' have made rapid strides, but that conveniently forgets that black people can be gay or trans too, and also haven't made the same gains white LGBTQ fo…
It's rather disingenuous to point at the increase in murders like that, given how 2020 saw a huge spike in murders year over year for the general population. So 44 trans people were murdered in 2020, out of a total of 21,570 in the US [0]. Estimates for the trans population range from 0.39% [1] to 0.58% [2]. That's about 2-3x lower than we'd expect, as a population of that size with an equivalent murder rate would ha…
For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…
Let the 1k go, if they must. They can walk out with their heads high and feeling like they've made a statement. But also let Chappelle continue to earn a living and hold his head high. There's room for both. Let the cancellations cease forthwith.