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1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

#51
LGBT+ is imploding. Obviously they'll always be in the minority. Not to mention their biology is anti whatever they want to be. They'll never taste peace and so are lashing out.

This is not good for their cause long term. I don't care what you do in your private life, but you're clearly not okay. Lashing out at other people's views even though don't impact you in any way shape or form.

Lashing out would be one thing but trying to cancel their livelihood.

With all due respect, FU.

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

#52
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For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…

That is not what people are taking issue with. Regardless of where anyone stands on the issue, much of the special was about LGBT people, and the bit about his friend could hardly be construed as the most offensive part.

This is hardly the most offensive comedic content around. In my experience it's actually harder to find less offensive comedy than very offensive comedy.

Ever wonder why "clean" comics are so rare?

Comedy is offensive by it's very nature.

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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post #31
post #12

For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…

> but he did it in an offensive way I find this part of the statement to be a falsehood. He did it in a comedic way, which was part of the point he was trying to make. See: https://nypost.com/2021/10/15/airplane-creator-slams-joy-kil...

Something said by a comedian doesn’t make it a joke. And something being a joke doesn’t shield it (or the teller) from criticism.

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

#54

Why does it seem like the controversial statements that are being picked out are what is being fixated on? They seem to intentionally ignore the surrounding context of the message he’s actually trying to convey.

Such is the psychology of the outrage machine and the continuously angry and offended operators.

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you don't like the company's decisions, you should stop working for the company - easy enough. That's exactly the threat here, but with an opportunity for the company to alter its decision making if it wants the labor.

What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out? This reminds me more of the student protests we used to see, where they wanted to walk out of classes or miss exams but also wanted special treatment so they didn't fail the class. I've got no problem with not working at a place whose values you dont agree with, but I see this kind of action (and similar things at other te…

Firing them would have a very positive effect, like when Regan fired 11000 striking air controllers ( https://www.afacwa.org/reagan_fires_11_000_striking_air_traf... ).

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out? This reminds me more of the student protests we used to see, where they wanted to walk out of classes or miss exams but also wanted special treatment so they didn't fail the class. I've got no problem with not working at a place whose values you dont agree with, but I see this kind of action (and similar things at other te…

> What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out? That would be a pretty awesome outcome - Netflix shouldn't have to change their programming (which is generally largely uncontroversial for the most part - I mean when is the last time they truly pushed the envelope? Maybe the OATS STUDIOS and original Black Mirror content?) to satisfy the permanently dissatisfied member…

> That would be a pretty awesome outcome...

Even more awesome if they filmed it and had Dave Chappelle standing outside to roast them as they were escorted out.

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

#57
post #12

For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…

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Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

#58
post #12

For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…

There's nuance to be sure, but Chappelle's quotes aren't really very far out of context. He's been banging the anti-anti-anti-cancel-culture gong for years now, dancing constantly just shy of outright hate, deliberately. And this really was no different. The fact that he personally had a trans friend who was herself in a complicated relationship with the LGBT community[1] is interesting and notable. I'm not sure it's "context". Chapelle wasn't talking about Dorman in those quotes, and he certainly wasn't "mourning".

[1] And, again, "cancelled by the mob" is a pretty poor summary.

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

#59
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but he did it in an offensive way I find this part of the statement to be a falsehood. He did it in a comedic way, which was part of the point he was trying to make. See: https://nypost.com/2021/10/15/airplane-creator-slams-joy-kil...

For me, calling comedy offensive isn’t even an insult. I am always prepared to be offended by comedy, and if I am, I will keep watching, but only if it is funny enough.

My mom used to tell me a story about how she watched Pulp Fiction in theaters when it came out. Some of the scenes were so gross, offensive, horrific and bland that they drove the audience away in waves, until she and her friends were the only ones still there, laughing at how one film could make so many people upset.
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