Remote sensing reveals Antarctic green snow algae as important carbon sink

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Post by graderjs » Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 2:28 PM UTC

Remote sensing reveals Antarctic green snow algae as important carbon sink
nature.com

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Post by atoav » Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 3:41 PM UTC

We are doomed. But on the other hand we created a lot of value for the shareholders for a few decades.

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 3:48 PM UTC

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Post by watertom » Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 4:00 PM UTC

It was the rise of phytoplankton that created the atmosphere necessary for human life.

It will be the collapse of the phytoplankton that will eliminate the the atmosphere necessary for human life.

Humans won’t be around to see the planet warm.

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Post by twofornone » Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 4:06 PM UTC

watertom wrote: post #4

It was the rise of phytoplankton that created the atmosphere necessary for human life. It will be the collapse of the phytoplankton that will eliminate the the atmosphere necessary for human life. Humans won’t be around to see the planet warm.

When we discover novel failure points in the complex, chaotic global climate system about once a year, why are you so sure that there aren't undiscovered biologic or geologic climate regulating mechanisms that will buffer the geologically recent greenhouse spike and maintain a livable temperature range?

That's the danger of a rigid, politically enforced orthodoxy. Your research becomes extremely one sided. And in a non-empirical field your speculation can go pretty far off into the deep end before you're proven wrong; especially when all of your predictions require hundreds of years to measure with any certainty.

Life has persisted through dozens (if not hundreds) of climate disturbances, and even though temperature swings look like blips when plotted, they most likely occur over hundreds-thousands of years. There are proposed mechanisms by which a sudden global temperature increase may in fact trigger an ice age through various geologic or globally biologic phenomena. You wont see much published on that side of the climate conjecture, but a lack of literature in the modern research climate does not imply invalidity.

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Post by ahevia » Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 4:08 PM UTC

watertom wrote: post #4

It was the rise of phytoplankton that created the atmosphere necessary for human life. It will be the collapse of the phytoplankton that will eliminate the the atmosphere necessary for human life. Humans won’t be around to see the planet warm.

This is unnecessary doomerism. Yes our situation is not exactly the brightest but is doomposting on HN really the best action you can take?

Humans will still be around to see the planet warm. The question is will individuals & society band together to limit that warming & adapt?

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Post by rc_mob » Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 4:12 PM UTC

ahevia wrote: post #6

watertom wrote: post #4

It was the rise of phytoplankton that created the atmosphere necessary for human life. It will be the collapse of the phytoplankton that will eliminate the the atmosphere necessary for human life. Humans won’t be around to see the planet warm.

This is unnecessary doomerism. Yes our situation is not exactly the brightest but is doomposting on HN really the best action you can take? Humans will still be around to see the planet warm. The question is will individuals & society band together to limit that warming & adapt?

First step to solving a problem is acknowledging that the problem exists. It feels like you have yet to take that first step.

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Post by civilized » Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 4:17 PM UTC

To anyone who is gearing up to doompost: the abstract says this is likely a negative feedback counteracting warming and carbon rise.

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Post by ripper1138 » Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 4:17 PM UTC

watertom wrote: post #4

It was the rise of phytoplankton that created the atmosphere necessary for human life. It will be the collapse of the phytoplankton that will eliminate the the atmosphere necessary for human life. Humans won’t be around to see the planet warm.

Ridiculous. Humans burning fossil fuel for 200 years is nothing compared to the mass extinctions that have occurred in the past, and yet the atmosphere is still here.

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Post by wsjtho55 » Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 4:23 PM UTC

ahevia wrote: post #6

watertom wrote: post #4

It was the rise of phytoplankton that created the atmosphere necessary for human life. It will be the collapse of the phytoplankton that will eliminate the the atmosphere necessary for human life. Humans won’t be around to see the planet warm.

This is unnecessary doomerism. Yes our situation is not exactly the brightest but is doomposting on HN really the best action you can take? Humans will still be around to see the planet warm. The question is will individuals & society band together to limit that warming & adapt?

Is trying to “correct” doomposting on HN with poetic trifles the best action you can take?

Useless rhetoric online sure requires a lot of computers.

Band with society to use them less disposably.