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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#521
Most platforms should have easily accessible "don't show me this" or "show more of this" buttons on their home page where most of the algorithmically generated results are shown.

On YouTube it's hidden behind menus and on Facebook it's also kind of a chore to try to curate stuff.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#522
I seem to recall Spotify did at one time have a dislike button. They removed it over the course of several UI iterations that renamed it, moved it to a menu, then the option vanished altogether. The closest thing they have now is “don’t play this artist.”

Apple Music still doesn’t compare well with Spotify, but at least there’s a “play less music like this” menu item available.

Edit: after reading more comments here - I definitely want options that include “dislike”, “not in the mood”, “you’re playing this to much”, “this does not belong on this ‘radio station’” -because I like the music, I just want it categorized correctly.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#523

A dislike button would be handy. There is that feature on some of the generated playlists, but I don't think they do anything. My two biggest issues with Spotify right now are: 1. Release Radar filled with re-releases and remixes, often from artists who have long since passed away. I want new music as in released for the first time. 2. Name collisions. I'm surprised this is an issue, but I will often get songs from d…

As for the "dislike an artist and I'll dislike all artists with the same name", you could theoretically compare the two by artist-ids, which you can see when sharing the artist through the Spotify client or using a browser to show the profile.

Spotify usually doesn't just give the same ID to several artists with the same name, but of course it's not impossible.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#524
An interesting parallel, Facebook and Twitter also do not allow downvoting, which may also have similar negative effects as Spotify's lack of dislikes:

https://questioner.substack.com/p/our-violent-era

> So Twitter artificially removes all the negative feedback (the downvotes) and only shows the positive feedback (the upvotes), leading many of their users to the mistaken impression that their insane ideas are immensely popular.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#525

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They already have this family plan though?

Family plan allows you to have multiple accounts, but if a single account is logged in multiple devices (e.g. some home device that's playing stuff at home, and your phone in your car) then they would do what OP says... unless they constantly re-log in the home music device (whatever setup you're using) to switch accounts based on who is home.

Oh, right. We do that anyway as we have very different tastes and sharing the same account messes with the suggestions too much.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#526

Would be great if Spotify had * "good fit"/"bad fit" button — I like a wide variety of music, but it needs to be appropriate to context. If I start a radio from a song, I'd like to teach it to tailor the suggested songs better but that doesn't mean I dislike the songs it _is_ suggesting. * Ability to give the social context — a band playing at a music festival will lean more towards hits in their back catalogue. At t…

There is an opening for this. I would switch streaming service for a better shuffle algorithm.

I tried every service available in my region trying to find the best "shuffle" out suggestion service.

Deezer was quite good for a while, but right now I am sticking with yt music.

IMO Spotify is the worst.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#527
I always assumed skipping a song had the same effect

My only problem with Spotify is that it seems to heavily lean on some songs, to the point I have to block them. I guess this in of itself questions my assumption

I have a theory (read: confirmation bias) that "That's not my name" by the Ting Tings is cheaper for them to play or something the amount shuffle seems to want to play it. No matter how many other songs are in the list, if that ones in there it'll be played within 5 songs haha

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#528

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iTunes still has it, I think, as iTunes Match.

But as the name already implies, that one preferentially tries to match your files to the ones already available in Apple's music catalogue, with file upload only serving as a fallback if it can't find any matches. And from what I've heard, the fingerprinting algorithm is fuzzy enough that it will often match songs/song versions that are very similar, but not actually identical, like censored/uncensored lyrics, diffe…

Well, so did the Amazon one.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#529

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To the contrary, that's precisely what I want to be doing at work often enough.

Heh, between DJ-ing and reading HN, do you find the time to do actual work?

Yeah, of course, and I doubt my colleagues are putting in eight consecutive productive hours every day either. Hard to be on all the time.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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An option to hide all podcasts would significantly improve spotify's recommendations. I don't listen to podcasts (though I have accidentally clicked on one, when a podcast interviewed a musician I like... blech). Why is my screen filled with podcasts multiple times per day? I like the music recommendations, "so and so artist radio," etc., but they make me hunt for them. Also, while I like a broad variety of genres, I…

I don't usually overreact too strongly to big tech making dumb decisions like these, but Spotify's podcast pushing actually did drive me away from the platform. I beg Spotify to think Logically about it. There is a limited amount of screen real estate available on any display, but especially phones. Q.e.d: pushing podcast-related content actually hurts the music listening experience. Conversely, pushing music content…

You’re probably right but I have yet to meet anyone who loves podcasts in Spotify. The two groups I have encountered who use it are those who never listened to podcasts at all before so don’t know any other way, and people who begrudgingly use it because some podcast they like went exclusive there. Which I guess are both good for Spotify but it puts them in a weaker position than if people actually did truly like the experience.
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