Dislike button will reflect mass market not understanding good music. Bad idea.
Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#462I'm apparently in the minority, but I long for a return of the 5-star ranking. I really miss that about itunes, being able to rank each song, and set up smart playlists based on genre and how much variety (how deep in the star rankings) I wanted. I'd have to think an intelligent recommendation engine could do a ton more with star rankings than a simple up/down too. 5=love, 4=like, 3=ok, 2=dislike, 1=hate. It could ev…
It’d be better as:
+2 love
+1 like
0 don’t mind it
-1 dislike
-2 never again
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#463Earlier quoted context omitted.
Surely they have some context as to what "now" means? I read that YouTube Music recommends different music depending on time of day, whether I'm at work / home / in the car, and even takes the weather into account. I'd be surprised if Spotify didn't have some context awareness as well.
They can't possibly have sufficient context. I recently got super into the band Squid. But I hated them the first time I heard them. It was because I was depressed and looking for more music like Black Midi-- Black Country New Road came up and was perfect. Squid came up and made me want to punch my speakers. If they have enough data to predict my mood to that extent then I would like to hire them as my therapist.
Same! Started with Squid and Spotify took me to Black Midi, Yard Act, Dry Cleaning, all of whom I'd skipped in the past because I just didn't get it, now I'm obsessed. Some music just defies understanding on a first lesson.
Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#464I'm apparently in the minority, but I long for a return of the 5-star ranking. I really miss that about itunes, being able to rank each song, and set up smart playlists based on genre and how much variety (how deep in the star rankings) I wanted. I'd have to think an intelligent recommendation engine could do a ton more with star rankings than a simple up/down too. 5=love, 4=like, 3=ok, 2=dislike, 1=hate. It could ev…
I've thought about this in the past and figured something geometric could better capture engagement
-1 -> dislike, +1 -> like, +2 -> favourite, +4 -> heart
Labels are arbitrary. How might this weighting affect learning?
Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#465Would be great if Spotify had
* "good fit"/"bad fit" button — I like a wide variety of music, but it needs to be appropriate to context. If I start a radio from a song, I'd like to teach it to tailor the suggested songs better but that doesn't mean I dislike the songs it _is_ suggesting.
* Ability to give the social context — a band playing at a music festival will lean more towards hits in their back catalogue. At their own gig they may play some obscure stuff that die hard fans will really like. Similarly, what I'm listening to will be different if I'm having a party, friends over for dinner or on my own. On a family account, you should also be able to say who is listening & it should tailor to music that you might all enjoy.
* I get that they don't want to block artists/songs completely but they _should_ allow limiting how many times they suggest it per day. If I've listened to Everywhere by Fleetwood Mac on one playlist I probably don't want to hear it again an hour later on another playlist
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#466Earlier quoted context omitted.
The more information the better, thing is platforms want to sell their content first and foremost. This removal of user input was pushed by the business so they could push content regardless of personal interest. Ever wonder why Netflix keeps on pushing bad content ?
Do you have any evidence for that claim, or is that pure speculation on your part?
> "Netflix Ditches 5 Star Rating System, Is Amy Schumer to Blame?"
> "This past week, Netflix officially debuted their new Amy Schumer stand-up comedy hour The Leather Special. And it was instantaneously met with negative reviews. Some claim that Schumer's biggest critics got on Netflix and purposely drove down the rating of the special, some without even watching it. Schumer herself blames the 'Alt-Right' for sabotaging her latest effort. Now, it is being announced that Netflix is ditching its five-star rating system for something much more streamlined, a rating system that owes itself to the legacy of the late Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert. Did Amy Schumer have anything to do with this new rating system? Probably not. But once in place, it will certainly help her Leather Special find a more appropriate audience."
https://movieweb.com/netflix-cancels-5-star-rating-system/
'Probably not', but it sure seemed like coincidental timing to me.
Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#467I always understood that when you skip a song the spotify counts that as a dislike.
Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#468Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here. I like Christopher Tin (e.g. Baba Yetu) and therefore for 6 years I've had no way to tell Spotify I don't like 8-bit video game music. No amount of skipping or "I don't like this artist" seems to convince Spotify to stop offering me variations of 8-bit Tetris themes or MULTIPLE 8-bit Cowboy Bebop Tank! theme variations per every single Discover Weekly. I'd be thrilled to even get a 2% hit rate on music I l…
Man, the spotify algo makes no sense. The other week I was in a really specific mood, starting with Sonic 1/2 OST and moving into 8bit/chiptune/keygen. I probably listened to every rendition of Chemical Zone out there. Rest of the week, much the same. Nothing in Discover Weekly.
I think the relative "power" of a music genre is in relationship to its popularity compared to the popularity of what you usually listen to. Stands to reason that if you listen to rarer music (i.e. stuff the algorithm has less information about), then stuff that is more common (and the algorithm knows more about) will have a disproportionate effect on your recommendations.
This seems to be a problem with this general type of recommendation algorithms in general. YouTube suffers from it as well.
Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#469I always understood that when you skip a song the spotify counts that as a dislike.
For sure they use more than likes as a metric/feature for classifying the music you like/dislike. Skip most likely is one of them
Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#470Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are 3 artists that Spotify continually play to me and I preemptively will fast forward them even during the crossover play because I dislike them so much. I’ve submitted requests before to have a “don’t play me this artist” feature. I don’t know why this is so hard for them.
Youtube for me, fixates on a couple of videos-- as in it recommends them every single time I use it-- one is a Marques Brown retrospective on the Gameboy, and one is the TYT (news outlet), story about a woman who had her face bitten off by an ape and is at least 8 years old. I don't know why these show up in my recommendations every single day. I will never watch them.
With YouTube you can mark them as ‘not interested’ and poof, they’re gone.