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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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post #78

An option to hide all podcasts would significantly improve spotify's recommendations. I don't listen to podcasts (though I have accidentally clicked on one, when a podcast interviewed a musician I like... blech). Why is my screen filled with podcasts multiple times per day? I like the music recommendations, "so and so artist radio," etc., but they make me hunt for them. Also, while I like a broad variety of genres, I…

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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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I'm genuinely confused by people who complain about Spotify's recommendation algorithm. I have eclectic, often obscure tastes, and I've found it to be an incredible way to discover new music. I think you do have to prime the engine a bit. I "like" a lot of albums and songs. Every time I hear something new that I like I press the little heart button. Same when I discover music outside of Spotify (I listen to WFMU a lo…

Agreed. A lot is wrong about Spotify, but the recommendations are superb.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Allow listening from more than one device at the same time on a family plan. Use case: I listen to something at home and then get in my car. People at home should still be able to listen to what they want, and I should also be able to listen to something else. At the same time.

They already have this family plan though?

Family plan allows you to have multiple accounts, but if a single account is logged in multiple devices (e.g. some home device that's playing stuff at home, and your phone in your car) then they would do what OP says... unless they constantly re-log in the home music device (whatever setup you're using) to switch accounts based on who is home.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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post #115

I have seen this article before. The author are so close to understanding why Spotify does NOT need a dislike button >To dislike a song is easy – to like one, you have to actually invest time in it. Likewise, to detect if a user dislikes a song is easy since the user will not invest time listening to it: the skip button is the dislike button. In contrast, detecting if a user likes a song is more difficult: there need…

Deezer has added a "don't recommend this song again" button. I used a couple of times only but I feel that my recommendations have been indeed improved.

Before, I had to skip the songs that I did not like, and Deezer was keep putting them back in my 'Flow' a few days later. That was pretty annoying.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#425

I'm apparently in the minority, but I long for a return of the 5-star ranking. I really miss that about itunes, being able to rank each song, and set up smart playlists based on genre and how much variety (how deep in the star rankings) I wanted. I'd have to think an intelligent recommendation engine could do a ton more with star rankings than a simple up/down too. 5=love, 4=like, 3=ok, 2=dislike, 1=hate. It could ev…

The more information the better, thing is platforms want to sell their content first and foremost. This removal of user input was pushed by the business so they could push content regardless of personal interest. Ever wonder why Netflix keeps on pushing bad content ?

Do you have any evidence for that claim, or is that pure speculation on your part?

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#426
post #115

I have seen this article before. The author are so close to understanding why Spotify does NOT need a dislike button >To dislike a song is easy – to like one, you have to actually invest time in it. Likewise, to detect if a user dislikes a song is easy since the user will not invest time listening to it: the skip button is the dislike button. In contrast, detecting if a user likes a song is more difficult: there need…

But there is a difference between "I don't feel like this now" and "I hate this" that skipping a track doesn't capture.

That difference is easily captured by the cases where you don't skip that track. If you have listened to a track two times and on the third case skip it, then that's "I don't feel like this now"; if you have been offered that track twice and skipped it both times immediately, then you probably hate this.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#427
post #245

I'm genuinely confused by people who complain about Spotify's recommendation algorithm. I have eclectic, often obscure tastes, and I've found it to be an incredible way to discover new music. I think you do have to prime the engine a bit. I "like" a lot of albums and songs. Every time I hear something new that I like I press the little heart button. Same when I discover music outside of Spotify (I listen to WFMU a lo…

Yes, same, I enjoyed the weekly recommendations for about a year, each week being recommended some songs which remain favorites. But the algorithmic recommendations then got heavily skewed towards Finnish rap music. Which made the recommendations garbage. The convergence towards Finnish rap is not uncommon on Spotify.

I've never had the problem with Finnish rap, but at one point the discover weekly was full of death metal. Also, for some reason they pushed really hard Ricky's Hand by Fad Gadget (awful, but at the time they had a well hidden ban button), Swamp Thing by Chameleons (kind of OK, but don't they have other songs?) and Love Will Save You by Swans (kind of OK, but do have long discography so why always that one song?)

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree that your reasoning is entirely sound. It's a bit of an elitist point of view I suppose; but fundamentally I don't think all customers are created equally in terms of importance. One could even in this day and age call some of the more important ones "influencer" or something similar. While the general customer base might not be served by this feature, what if a subset of the customer base enjoys this feat…

For a long time we called this sort of user a "power user". People who are not necessarily technical but who love your application and use it extensively will appreciate power user functionality. It's probably fine to not have anything to appeal to power users, but those power users probably will be the sorts to be influencers to talk up your application to everyone they know.

It’s interesting isn’t it, why did we stop talking about power users and catering to their needs?

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#429

I'm apparently in the minority, but I long for a return of the 5-star ranking. I really miss that about itunes, being able to rank each song, and set up smart playlists based on genre and how much variety (how deep in the star rankings) I wanted. I'd have to think an intelligent recommendation engine could do a ton more with star rankings than a simple up/down too. 5=love, 4=like, 3=ok, 2=dislike, 1=hate. It could ev…

I can't rate using 5 stars, it's either like, dislike or don't care, so 1 star 5 stars or no rating. With Tidal that's either listen to <30 seconds, skip or maybe listen through the full song, maybe fave or go back and replay. So they don't even need a dislike button. They just need to look at user actions if the algorithms are really optimized for tailoring content to the user's preferences, rather than pushing sponsored content in order to make money really fast. I don't even look at their recomendations (they're BS), but I do play artist radio if I happen to like something. That's how I found about Toshiko Akiyoshi a few days ago while listening to some artist's or track's radio.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#430

Things I want from Spotify: - Fix the damn album artwork in the browser. A big part of enjoying an album is viewing the cover and liner art. Let me do that full-screen with zoom. - Let me create genre-limited radio stations from my likes. Don't just play songs from my likes. If I'm in the mood for , say, 80s hip-hop, I want a radio station based off my liked 80s hip-hop songs which includes related artists. - Hide th…

Also, how about giving me the ability to not hear songs with certain words in them. I'm not a tea totaller or holier than thou Nancy, but I really don't want to hear any more songs from the hood rapping about their gangsta money hoes and all the other things that are basically domestic violence, gun violence, racism, gang mentality and "I'm so tough" stories all in one. Spotify keeps recommending them even though I s…

You can disable songs with explicit lyrics in your settings, if that isn't too wide a net.
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