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Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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The exception is if you print photos. There’s not really a good alternative to inkjet, except RA-4, which is out of reach for consumers.

If you print photos, go to a print service. How often do you print photos that you can't?

A photo service is just somebody else who owns printers and charges you a markup. If you print one-off photos of decent quality, probably going to be RA-4, inkjet, or dye sub. This is true whether or not you own the printer yourself.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Seems like something you could test and see if it works on your printer.

What's a test going to tell you? The reason he's saying it's a bad idea is because it's possible to end up with the printer executing a partially submitted job or not using settings that match up with the document you're trying to print.

If you end up with a partially submitted job, then you'll know you need to install the printer drivers. If it prints successfully, then you'll know the drivers were unnecessary. I assume you'll hang onto this printer for long enough a couple wasted sheets of paper are not a large concern.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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And even inkjet vs laser doesn't matter since many companies may do like HP and require you sign into an HP account just to print.

Return it then. Notice that every other thread is saying just buy a brother?

It's at least five years old and it wasn't a problem until a recent update by HP.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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post #173

As many techies will probably always say anytime inkjet product shenanigans come up: just buy a laser printer. And I now add: and don't let it connect to the Internet, and don't install proprietary drivers or software for it on your computers. Also, remember the names of companies doing sketchy things, and do your part to provide negative feedback when you can, and to give positive feedback to better companies. (Exam…

What is your alternative to the Apple ecosystem?

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but when can we get some momentum behind repealing or ruling unconstitutional anti-subversion laws from the DMCA? It would be nice if this sort of thing goes to court and starts to challenge that law, but I don't think that's a likely outcome here, since the nominal case is about fraudulent advertising and no subversion attempt was really made. But it's exactly the kind of problem that the law creates and perpetuates indefinitely. It's been barely over 20 years and exploiting them has become the business model of giant swaths of our economy. The harm done to innovation, consumers, and probably honestly the productivity of the US as a whole has so massively dwarfed that of even the most pessimistic models of "piracy" and has reshaped our way of life for a generation. It's a bad law and it needs to die

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but when can we get some momentum behind repealing or ruling unconstitutional anti-subversion laws from the DMCA? It would be nice if this sort of thing goes to court and starts to challenge that law, but I don't think that's a likely outcome here, since the nominal case is about fraudulent advertising and no subversion attempt was really made. But it's exactly the kind of problem t…

I personally believe that we need far better consumer protection laws in the U.S., in general.

I'm certain that laws attempting to curb specific abuses such as with these printers will be like playing whack-a-mole, but perhaps after enough moles get whacked hard enough, the culture might start to change course. One can wish anyway.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I think that not buying printers is the correct answer, difficult to get everyone to do it, but it is the metric most likely to change behavior. Inkjet technology is fine, it was the exploitation of it by HP which lead to copy cats that really made it ridiculous. I've got an HP inkjet wide format plotter (36" wide) that was built both before HP was all in on ink as a profit center and built by a different division (p…

Can second the praise for the Epson Eco-Tank printers. Ink is cheap and lasts extremely long. Also I never had any problem with clogged nozzles etc which I used to face frequently on the cheaper printers. (though my Eco-Tank printer is black-and-white only which maybe alleviates many of those problems). Also the integrated scanner worked out-of-the box for me under Debian, after I compiled and installed utsushi [1] f…

Also a fan of the Epson Eco-tank. No nozzle clogging, even with infrequent use. The model I have is colour, Epson ET-7700.

I was at the point of swearing never to buy Epson inkjets, or any inkjet again. Then they released the eco-tank. I reluctantly made the purchase, almost expecting to be let down, but glad to say all is well.

The comedian Jimeoin even did a TV ad for the eco-tank range (here in Australia at least). It became a worldwide joke about tossing out printers when ink ran out. Maybe that's why they chose him for the eco-tank campaign.

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