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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by laumars »

nkozyra wrote: post #230
rumblerock wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On top of that, if you listen to a wide range of genres the attempt to shoehorn your history into 6 Daily Mixes yields some comical results. Like Doobie Brothers followed by Nirvana. Give me a home screen with 12 or more Daily Mixes that segment my listening behavior at a finer resolution, and I'd be a lot happier with the service. I understand why all the other playlists exist, but I generally have an idea of exactl…

> Like Doobie Brothers followed by Nirvana. What's inherently comical about this? One of my least favorite experiences is having a radio station based on a song and getting nothing but songs that sound just like it. Unless you have only played 90s grunge or 70s soft rock I'm not sure why this juxtaposition is not considered a feature.

I agree. I love the wider scope of Spotify’s mixes. If I wanted a narrow scope then I’d just have created the playlist myself like the old days (or just thrown an album on). The reason I use Spotify mixes is for a variety within an approximate mood. And I’ve discovered so many good news tunes and artists through their mixes.

That all said, I do wish I could turn off their podcast recommendations. I never listen to podcasts and worse yet they keep shoving that same comedians is absolutely hate (and there aren’t many comedians I dislike; which just goes to show how far off the mark their podcast recommendations are)

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by saghm »

nkozyra wrote: post #230
rumblerock wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On top of that, if you listen to a wide range of genres the attempt to shoehorn your history into 6 Daily Mixes yields some comical results. Like Doobie Brothers followed by Nirvana. Give me a home screen with 12 or more Daily Mixes that segment my listening behavior at a finer resolution, and I'd be a lot happier with the service. I understand why all the other playlists exist, but I generally have an idea of exactl…

> Like Doobie Brothers followed by Nirvana. What's inherently comical about this? One of my least favorite experiences is having a radio station based on a song and getting nothing but songs that sound just like it. Unless you have only played 90s grunge or 70s soft rock I'm not sure why this juxtaposition is not considered a feature.

The local classic rock radio station I listened to growing up has continued to slowly expand what they consider "classic"; whenever I go back home, it's always interesting to hear stuff like grunge and some metal (like certain Metallica songs). Hearing a Nirvana song right after the Doobie Brothers is exactly the type of thing I've probably heard before from them!

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by [deleted] »

nkozyra wrote: post #230
rumblerock wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On top of that, if you listen to a wide range of genres the attempt to shoehorn your history into 6 Daily Mixes yields some comical results. Like Doobie Brothers followed by Nirvana. Give me a home screen with 12 or more Daily Mixes that segment my listening behavior at a finer resolution, and I'd be a lot happier with the service. I understand why all the other playlists exist, but I generally have an idea of exactl…

> Like Doobie Brothers followed by Nirvana. What's inherently comical about this? One of my least favorite experiences is having a radio station based on a song and getting nothing but songs that sound just like it. Unless you have only played 90s grunge or 70s soft rock I'm not sure why this juxtaposition is not considered a feature.

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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by hkon »

campground wrote: post #200

I'm genuinely confused by people who complain about Spotify's recommendation algorithm. I have eclectic, often obscure tastes, and I've found it to be an incredible way to discover new music. I think you do have to prime the engine a bit. I "like" a lot of albums and songs. Every time I hear something new that I like I press the little heart button. Same when I discover music outside of Spotify (I listen to WFMU a lo…

Yes, same, I enjoyed the weekly recommendations for about a year, each week being recommended some songs which remain favorites. But the algorithmic recommendations then got heavily skewed towards Finnish rap music. Which made the recommendations garbage. The convergence towards Finnish rap is not uncommon on Spotify.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by ravenstine »

jorgesborges wrote: post #22

So basically they’re developing a product marketed to streaming platforms to identify what’s “more attractive” to consumers. The algorithms are still optimized for increasing sales and engagement, not improving recommendations (for the user). That’s exactly why I’m unhappy with Spotify lately. I feel I’m being sold a bunch of corporate portfolios on what’s currently in vogue, and not just artistically but politically…

Tidal is a pretty good alternative and also has lossless.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by emodendroket »

rumblerock wrote: post #169
jorgesborges wrote: post #22

So basically they’re developing a product marketed to streaming platforms to identify what’s “more attractive” to consumers. The algorithms are still optimized for increasing sales and engagement, not improving recommendations (for the user). That’s exactly why I’m unhappy with Spotify lately. I feel I’m being sold a bunch of corporate portfolios on what’s currently in vogue, and not just artistically but politically…

On top of that, if you listen to a wide range of genres the attempt to shoehorn your history into 6 Daily Mixes yields some comical results. Like Doobie Brothers followed by Nirvana. Give me a home screen with 12 or more Daily Mixes that segment my listening behavior at a finer resolution, and I'd be a lot happier with the service. I understand why all the other playlists exist, but I generally have an idea of exactl…

I like the variety of them so I'm happy to have them mix genres like that, except they're too repetitive.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by emerged »

campground wrote: post #200

I'm genuinely confused by people who complain about Spotify's recommendation algorithm. I have eclectic, often obscure tastes, and I've found it to be an incredible way to discover new music. I think you do have to prime the engine a bit. I "like" a lot of albums and songs. Every time I hear something new that I like I press the little heart button. Same when I discover music outside of Spotify (I listen to WFMU a lo…

It’s really good for me. But I had a large catalog of mp3 accumulated over the years and then manually followed a ton of those artists and liked their tracks.

Good recommendations obviously require good data. You sort of get what you put in to an extent.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by emodendroket »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #124
echelon wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want a service where I can upload my own files and easily access them from a player interface in the browser, mobile, etc. I want the ability to rate music across multiple user-configurable dimensions. Add tags. Create smart playlists that interpolate between these. I want to be able to pay a fee to subscribe to music discovery, then be able to mix these with my own library. If I really like a track, I'd like to bu…

> I want a service where I can upload my own files and easily access them from a player interface in the browser, mobile, etc. Amazon used to provide this service, but they shut it down.

iTunes still has it, I think, as iTunes Match.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by emerged »

bdcp wrote: post #36
simlevesque wrote: post #4

I'll never use Spotify again. My account was hacked by a latino and now my recommendations is 100% latin music. They told me there is nothing they can do to fix this. My recommendations are broken and my only option is to create another account, cancel my subscription, buy it again... Not gonna happen.

I keep getting recommended German music. I'm not German.

Look I’m sorry but you love German music. The sooner you accept that the sooner we can all move on.
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