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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by plorkyeran »

gs17 wrote: post #73
bdcp wrote: post #36

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I keep getting recommended German music. I'm not German.

Listening to metal gets a lot of recommendations for me in languages I don't understand much of. You would think Spotify would have a way to not change languages between songs at least.

Metal fans who listen to things beyond the mainstream hits tend to listen to a lot of music in languages they don't speak due to how much of the best metal out there isn't in English. If you listen to a lot of bands whose fans listen to music in other languages then I'd expect you to get a lot of recommendations in other languages.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by ldjkfkdsjnv »

T00TH3M00N wrote: post #113
psKama wrote: post #90

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That's the exact reason I switched to YouTube Music. I remember even about 10 years ago, last.fm's algorithm on bringing songs I would enjoy basing on previously listened/liked songs was far more accurate than Spotify's today.

Haha same. I couldn't believe how much better YT Music was. There's no going back

Its funny how much better Googles side show product is. Shows that the internal technology is truly advanced and capable of swiping away another company at the drop of a hat.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by lethologica »

ardit33 wrote: post #81

Spotify had both thumbs up and thumbs down button a while ago. It even asked why do you thumb down something: Wrong Rec Do not like the artist/show less Do not like this song Heard it too many times/pause for a bit etc... It got removed... as the whole functionality (Radio) got phased out, and the new stuff didn't incorporate it. Employees changed, and moved on to other companies, and the new that came didn't think i…

Radio functionality is still there but it’s a shell of what it used to be. I find it absolutely useless now actually because all it ever seems to do is play music I’ve already added to my library.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

echelon wrote: post #55
loudtieblahblah wrote: post #48

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Crap like this is why, to this day, my collection is digital files, cds, vinyl and streaming only for radio - like pandora

I want a service where I can upload my own files and easily access them from a player interface in the browser, mobile, etc. I want the ability to rate music across multiple user-configurable dimensions. Add tags. Create smart playlists that interpolate between these. I want to be able to pay a fee to subscribe to music discovery, then be able to mix these with my own library. If I really like a track, I'd like to bu…

> I want a service where I can upload my own files and easily access them from a player interface in the browser, mobile, etc.

Amazon used to provide this service, but they shut it down.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by vanilla_nut »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #58
0134340 wrote: post #24

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Yes that's very frustrating. I'm scared to even listen to new music on it because I'd try to use it for discovery but it would mistake what I listen to for what I like. Besides that it hardly recommends me any new music anyway. I now just use youtube for discovery.

They should add an incognito mode or something. You could even do this maliciously. Send someone a Spotify link to a Steely Dan song and a Skrillex song, and now yacht rock and dubstep will follow them around until they delete their account (I'm assuming the intersection between those fan-bases is vanishingly small).

High school me would have been very offended to be labeled “vanishingly small.”

But you’re not wrong.

By the way, I believe Spotify does have a private mode, which at least blocks your plays from showing up in the social pane and on your profile. But I’m not sure if it cuts them out of your recommendations.

Please, dear God, Spotify: just because I listened to the Hamilton soundtrack once does not mean that I want to hear it every week in Discover Weekly and multiple times per Duo playlist, because Lin-Manuel Miranda is apparently a genre of himself.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by oneplane »

loudtieblahblah wrote: post #76
oneplane wrote: post #69

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Apple Music does this for half that price. - Rating and tagging - Upload and download your own stuff if you want to (marketed as iCloud Music Library) - Works offline - Discovery services available - API exists but mostly used to implement web players for some reason, works fine in desktop apps too, on top of that the current state of your music library is always available as an XML file even when you don't use the A…

Is it a true upload or some crappy file/fingerprint matching? Most of these services aren't ever true uploads and do matching to save time, bandwidth and space.

Matching is optional. If a song cannot be matched, your own copy gets uploaded instead to your private iCloud library.

Edit: well, it's a bit nuanced of course, you can not match and not sync or match and sync but you can't mix and match that configuration. So it's either sync with matching when possible or no syncing.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by fpgaminer »

klyrs wrote: post #78

An option to hide all podcasts would significantly improve spotify's recommendations. I don't listen to podcasts (though I have accidentally clicked on one, when a podcast interviewed a musician I like... blech). Why is my screen filled with podcasts multiple times per day? I like the music recommendations, "so and so artist radio," etc., but they make me hunt for them. Also, while I like a broad variety of genres, I…

Seriously. I listen to podcasts, but I'm not going to do it through Spotify, who's working to build a walled garden around a traditionally open media. I'm also not interested in Joe Rogan, which they _constantly_ plaster my front page with.

I did try a Spotify podcast once. It was on my recommended list and was called daily dad jokes or something. Figured it was worth a quick laugh. Well it turned out to be a bot podcast. They set up a bot to rip jokes from Reddit, push them through TTS, and dump it into a Spotify podcast.

No thanks.

Meanwhile, Apple Podcasts, my go to, works great, doesn't spam me, and even added a feature where you can pay for a no-ads version of a podcast. Worked seemlessly.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by marginalia_nu »

Oddskar wrote: post #111
marginalia_nu wrote: post #58

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They should add an incognito mode or something. You could even do this maliciously. Send someone a Spotify link to a Steely Dan song and a Skrillex song, and now yacht rock and dubstep will follow them around until they delete their account (I'm assuming the intersection between those fan-bases is vanishingly small).

That already exists. Profile > Private Session

Doesn't that just hide your activity from other people?

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by Fnoord »

banana_maker wrote: post #79
echelon wrote: post #55

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I want a service where I can upload my own files and easily access them from a player interface in the browser, mobile, etc. I want the ability to rate music across multiple user-configurable dimensions. Add tags. Create smart playlists that interpolate between these. I want to be able to pay a fee to subscribe to music discovery, then be able to mix these with my own library. If I really like a track, I'd like to bu…

Check out Navidrome [0]. It's the closest one that I've found. It supports the Subsonic API so there are plenty of mobile apps and probably some desktop ones that work with it. I use play:Sub on iOS. 0: https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome

What's the advantage compared to Airsonic?

I use Airsonic right now, it is basically Jellyfin for a music collection. I use both of these as reliable alternative to Netflix/.../Spotify (where ... is a plethora of other video services such as Disney+).

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by refracture »

nvr219 wrote: post #119

I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't really care about recommendation engines because I still don't use them. I get music recommendations from friends or music journalism the way I did pre-Pandora and it still works for me. Maybe I'm missing out on some sick bands though.

I feel you. I haven't paid heed to a single recommendation Spotify has ever given me; Most of the bands I've discovered in the last several years were by way of Reddit or word of mouth.
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