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Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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The water dispenser on my fridge stops working if it decides the filter needs to be replaced. I get about ten days between the “new filter” light and when it stops working with the beeping and blinking getting progressively more annoying. Oddly enough the ice dispenser (which also uses the filter) continues to function. So it’s not a safety issue and someone apparently decided consumers would tolerate the inconvenien…

> someone apparently decided consumers would tolerate the inconvenience of no filtered water What kind of person makes decisions like this? When handed a good product, who decides to make it worse on purpose?

> who decides to make it worse on purpose?

Management beholden to shareholders above everyone else.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I stopped buying inkjet printers. They are a scam, the ink costs a fortune and they are built as cheap as they can, meaning that they will break and you have to throw them away because they are impossible to repair, they are slow and when you need them they don't work because they were not used for too much time. After having 5 broken printers in the garage I said enough, that is a useless waste, and invested some mo…

After similar shenanigans from HP, I went to Brother laser printers and haven’t looked back since.

I did the same thing.

I battled with colour HP, Canon and Epson inkjets for so many years, then eventually snapped 2 years ago and bought a mono Brother laser MFD for a ridiculously cheap £150 - wow, no more buying ink every month, no more "head cleaning" or "head alignment" every.single.time I want to print something, no paper jams, no stress when you just want to print one damned page!

Just... a perfectly working device! And the ink lasts ages too - the smaller cartridge that came with it lasted a year, then I bought a standard sized one that's still going strong. I really can't rate Brother highly enough - zero issues, everything works perfectly.

My only mistake was not switching to a mono laser printer sooner!

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Someone needs to make a QAnon post about the scam, then it'd be over for ink jets /s

Meh. Knowing about “the scam” is not enough to avoid it. People already know ink cartridges are expensive. To get a good deal you have to calculate TCO which requires understanding consumable prices, yields, and print volumes, and doing the math to figure out all of your options. Being mad is easy. Being analytical requires work.

I don't think it's that complicated in that case as you just need to know how many pages you are going to print. If the amount is greater than the one provided for in your inkjet starter pack, go buy Brother. Any other option will make you suffer as these cheap laser printers are disposable pieces of junk designed only to sell ink.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I do not understand how the other printer brands are even in business when Brother is an option. I feel like their reputation for being the best in the consumer space would have spread far and wide by now. I have been able to scan all of my documents with their MFC line directly to my Dropbox (or box or drive or onedrive) account for over 6 years now, AND Brother Web Connect automatically OCR’s them.

Isn't Brother agressive in it's constant unclearable warnings about using generic toner?

No. I have two Brother laser printers here (HL-L8360CDW and HL-5470DW) and have been using generic toners since the OEM toner cartridges ran out. I have never seen any warnings.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I stopped buying inkjet printers. They are a scam, the ink costs a fortune and they are built as cheap as they can, meaning that they will break and you have to throw them away because they are impossible to repair, they are slow and when you need them they don't work because they were not used for too much time. After having 5 broken printers in the garage I said enough, that is a useless waste, and invested some mo…

I got my first printer in high school, around 90-91. It was an HP laserjet printer, when they were first going mainstream. I loved it, it always printed well, and the toner seemed to last forever. Of course, it was B/W, but that was all I needed. Fast forward to today, I have never owned an inkjet printer. Over the past 30 years I’ve owned a total of 3 laser printers. The second was in 2005, because I wanted a scanne…

I bought an HP color LaserJet in college because my inkjet printers needed constant head cleaning and took forever.

18 years later, still works great and I've only changed the black toner once and never changed the color.

Of course the printer itself costs the same as 5 inkjets and when the toner does need replacing... ouch.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I do not understand how the other printer brands are even in business when Brother is an option. I feel like their reputation for being the best in the consumer space would have spread far and wide by now. I have been able to scan all of my documents with their MFC line directly to my Dropbox (or box or drive or onedrive) account for over 6 years now, AND Brother Web Connect automatically OCR’s them.

Isn't Brother agressive in it's constant unclearable warnings about using generic toner?

Not on my MFC-L2740DW at least. I've used generic toner from Monoprice just fine.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I stopped buying inkjet printers. They are a scam, the ink costs a fortune and they are built as cheap as they can, meaning that they will break and you have to throw them away because they are impossible to repair, they are slow and when you need them they don't work because they were not used for too much time. After having 5 broken printers in the garage I said enough, that is a useless waste, and invested some mo…

And even inkjet vs laser doesn't matter since many companies may do like HP and require you sign into an HP account just to print.

Return it then. Notice that every other thread is saying just buy a brother?

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I got my first printer in high school, around 90-91. It was an HP laserjet printer, when they were first going mainstream. I loved it, it always printed well, and the toner seemed to last forever. Of course, it was B/W, but that was all I needed. Fast forward to today, I have never owned an inkjet printer. Over the past 30 years I’ve owned a total of 3 laser printers. The second was in 2005, because I wanted a scanne…

I bought an HP color LaserJet in college because my inkjet printers needed constant head cleaning and took forever. 18 years later, still works great and I've only changed the black toner once and never changed the color. Of course the printer itself costs the same as 5 inkjets and when the toner does need replacing... ouch.

Isn't one of the big issues with old laser printers that they consume obscene amounts of electricity (>100W) when in stand-by?

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I ran into this when going to scan paperwork for my taxes a few years back. Then, a year later, the printer developed some sort of error on initialization of the print head... and it would refuse to scan on that basis, even though the scanner mechanism was completely separate and scanning UI still came up. It turned out there already was a class-action for this second issue, except my Canon hadn't manifested the issu…

> Got a B&W Brother Laser with a simple flatbed scanner built-in.

Since early 2000s: It's been mostly Brother lasers for my small biz clients. Brother was terrible before 2000, became cheap/reliable and stayed that way.

I placed a few this year.

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