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Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by throwaway09223 »

rdtwo wrote: post #37
orev wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There really is no reason to be printing photos on your own printer (for consumers, though I suspect it’s similar for pros). Every corner drug store (in the US) can print them with better quality and at a lower cost. Maybe it’s a slight hassle, but how many people are printing a significant quantity of photos anymore?

It’s kind of a pain to go to the drug store at 9pm to Print your kids solar system project. Just saying

Wow, I just use regular paper for school projects lol.

I think the disconnect here may be that most people rarely print glossy, so stopping by a store isn't a big deal for the vast majority.

If you're really printing glossy on short order demand then of course owning the machine might make sense.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by stickfigure »

js2 wrote: post #30
alerighi wrote: post #18

I stopped buying inkjet printers. They are a scam, the ink costs a fortune and they are built as cheap as they can, meaning that they will break and you have to throw them away because they are impossible to repair, they are slow and when you need them they don't work because they were not used for too much time. After having 5 broken printers in the garage I said enough, that is a useless waste, and invested some mo…

I had a contrary experience and I stopped buying laser printers. I had to toss two Brother lasers in the trash because Brother's customer service on warranty repairs required more hoops than I was willing to deal with. Meanwhile, I ended up with an HP OfficeJet Pro 8620 that was recommended years ago by The Wirecutter and I use HP's ink subscription service. It's never failed on me. It never jams. No fuser or toner t…

It's your tone.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by fsckboy »

Cyder wrote: post #5

We need an open source printer

wanting access to the source code of an early Xerox laser printer (at MIT) is what got Richard Stallman ticked off enough to devote his life to free software.

when I saw the headline for this article I first read it as "Canon sued for disabling scammer when printers run out of ink" :)

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by amelius »

orev wrote: post #26
klodolph wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The exception is if you print photos. There’s not really a good alternative to inkjet, except RA-4, which is out of reach for consumers.

There really is no reason to be printing photos on your own printer (for consumers, though I suspect it’s similar for pros). Every corner drug store (in the US) can print them with better quality and at a lower cost. Maybe it’s a slight hassle, but how many people are printing a significant quantity of photos anymore?

The problem is printing photos that you want to keep private.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by syntheticnature »

I ran into this when going to scan paperwork for my taxes a few years back.

Then, a year later, the printer developed some sort of error on initialization of the print head... and it would refuse to scan on that basis, even though the scanner mechanism was completely separate and scanning UI still came up. It turned out there already was a class-action for this second issue, except my Canon hadn't manifested the issue earlier and so no settlement for me.

Got a B&W Brother Laser with a simple flatbed scanner built-in. Not perfect, but covers the occasional need to print something out short-notice, and scans well enough for the main needs I have there. Some folks say just use services for printing, and there is some validity to that, but it's nice to be able to quickly print up a reference sheet or label without planning ahead.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by lazide »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #52
dv_dt wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After similar shenanigans from HP, I went to Brother laser printers and haven’t looked back since.

I do not understand how the other printer brands are even in business when Brother is an option. I feel like their reputation for being the best in the consumer space would have spread far and wide by now. I have been able to scan all of my documents with their MFC line directly to my Dropbox (or box or drive or onedrive) account for over 6 years now, AND Brother Web Connect automatically OCR’s them.

There are a lot of people out there that haven’t figured out the scam yet, and new ones minted every day. And those brands will sell 5 of these rip-off inkjets to someone at high margin before they figure it out and buy a brother once - for 1/5 of the total profit to brother.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by alerighi »

klodolph wrote: post #20
alerighi wrote: post #18

I stopped buying inkjet printers. They are a scam, the ink costs a fortune and they are built as cheap as they can, meaning that they will break and you have to throw them away because they are impossible to repair, they are slow and when you need them they don't work because they were not used for too much time. After having 5 broken printers in the garage I said enough, that is a useless waste, and invested some mo…

The exception is if you print photos. There’s not really a good alternative to inkjet, except RA-4, which is out of reach for consumers.

If you need to print photos is cheaper to get them printed by a photograph shop or if you need a lot of them even order from a service that prints them and sends it to you. Not only it's cheaper, but it's a far better quality than the shitty quality of consumer inkjet printers.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by [deleted] »

stickfigure wrote: post #62
js2 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a contrary experience and I stopped buying laser printers. I had to toss two Brother lasers in the trash because Brother's customer service on warranty repairs required more hoops than I was willing to deal with. Meanwhile, I ended up with an HP OfficeJet Pro 8620 that was recommended years ago by The Wirecutter and I use HP's ink subscription service. It's never failed on me. It never jams. No fuser or toner t…

It's your tone.

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Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by lazide »

rdtwo wrote: post #37
orev wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There really is no reason to be printing photos on your own printer (for consumers, though I suspect it’s similar for pros). Every corner drug store (in the US) can print them with better quality and at a lower cost. Maybe it’s a slight hassle, but how many people are printing a significant quantity of photos anymore?

It’s kind of a pain to go to the drug store at 9pm to Print your kids solar system project. Just saying

Sounds like something that would be pretty trivial to solve by a ever so slight application of advance planning?

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by systemvoltage »

alerighi wrote: post #18

I stopped buying inkjet printers. They are a scam, the ink costs a fortune and they are built as cheap as they can, meaning that they will break and you have to throw them away because they are impossible to repair, they are slow and when you need them they don't work because they were not used for too much time. After having 5 broken printers in the garage I said enough, that is a useless waste, and invested some mo…

Let's not throw the baby with the bathwater. Injket printers have advantages and can be cheap if we dismantle the highway robbery of inks. Just because inks are expensive does not mean that we should get rid of inkjet technology.

> I really don't see a reason for inkjet printers to exist, I hope they will disappear from the market.

Perhaps you should investigate why they exist. Seems too naive to wish for their disappearance due to lack of knowledge.

https://www.precisioncolors.com/

I've been using these for years for Photo printing. Can vouch for excellent quality and affordable price. You need a color calibrator to calibrate these inks + paper.

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