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Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by vlovich123 »

tsimionescu wrote: post #38
orev wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the low number of pages printed at home, I don’t mind buying the actual name-brand toner. If you’re only changing it every 2 years, the cost doesn’t matter much, and at least the company (i.e. Brother) gets some profit from being a good citizen. Going with non-OEM toner in that situation just drives the company into needing to find more revenue streams, such as locking down the cartridges, which undermines you. At…

How about they make their money by selling a good printer? I don't have to buy has from my car company if I want a good car.

Would you rate the typical car buying experience as one that’s fair where the customer generally isn’t taken advantage of?

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by carbocation »

marcodiego wrote: post #6

Hi Canon! Thanks from increasing my list of examples why people should no be so condescending of proprietary firmware.

I don't think condescending is the right word here. Can't be sure without knowing your intent, but do you mean something like "should not be so accepting of proprietary firmware"?

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by ikerdanzel »

orev wrote: post #29
alerighi wrote: post #18

I stopped buying inkjet printers. They are a scam, the ink costs a fortune and they are built as cheap as they can, meaning that they will break and you have to throw them away because they are impossible to repair, they are slow and when you need them they don't work because they were not used for too much time. After having 5 broken printers in the garage I said enough, that is a useless waste, and invested some mo…

At the low number of pages printed at home, I don’t mind buying the actual name-brand toner. If you’re only changing it every 2 years, the cost doesn’t matter much, and at least the company (i.e. Brother) gets some profit from being a good citizen. Going with non-OEM toner in that situation just drives the company into needing to find more revenue streams, such as locking down the cartridges, which undermines you. At…

Rare companies doing that these days. At least Brother and Epson seems to be decent. Canon and HP really need to reconsider their tactics otherwise it will damage their brands for decades to come like that famous computer brand that outsource support to India which affected the sales and then pull out from public listing to private.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by jsilence »

Not to be meant snarky, but I think the office world should strive to print much less at all.

Working at a University it is mind boggling to me how much paper is waster because someone internally decided they need a real signature. Not all my colleagues are savyy enough to paste a scanned signature into a pdf.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by [deleted] »

orev wrote: post #26
klodolph wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The exception is if you print photos. There’s not really a good alternative to inkjet, except RA-4, which is out of reach for consumers.

There really is no reason to be printing photos on your own printer (for consumers, though I suspect it’s similar for pros). Every corner drug store (in the US) can print them with better quality and at a lower cost. Maybe it’s a slight hassle, but how many people are printing a significant quantity of photos anymore?

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Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by sillyquiet »

dv_dt wrote: post #21
alerighi wrote: post #18

I stopped buying inkjet printers. They are a scam, the ink costs a fortune and they are built as cheap as they can, meaning that they will break and you have to throw them away because they are impossible to repair, they are slow and when you need them they don't work because they were not used for too much time. After having 5 broken printers in the garage I said enough, that is a useless waste, and invested some mo…

After similar shenanigans from HP, I went to Brother laser printers and haven’t looked back since.

Yep. Have had a Brother HL-2270 (b&w laser printing) for years, and couldn't be happier with it, especially coupled with a PI-based CUPS server for AirPrint capability and the like.

The only thing I miss about not having an inkjet is color printing and at-home photo printing, but there are so many on-demand online print shops nowadays, I can't say it's a big deal.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by sonofhans »

orev wrote: post #26
klodolph wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The exception is if you print photos. There’s not really a good alternative to inkjet, except RA-4, which is out of reach for consumers.

There really is no reason to be printing photos on your own printer (for consumers, though I suspect it’s similar for pros). Every corner drug store (in the US) can print them with better quality and at a lower cost. Maybe it’s a slight hassle, but how many people are printing a significant quantity of photos anymore?

What you say is not true for professional photographers or designers. For one thing, pro-level printers are in fact better than what the drug store has, which are optimized for speed, economy, and vibrancy — none of which are major concerns for professionals. They want accuracy and quality above all else.

For another thing, being able to print proofs in your own office is important. Having to run to the drug store to check color output is an awful pain.

Lastly, professional photo printers are often larger than what a drug store has, or at least higher quality at that large size.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Post by voakbasda »

elliekelly wrote: post #14
lokimedes wrote: post #7

My HP inkjet will not print any color or black if the “photo black” cartridge is removed. I consider this a similar “greed move” by HP.

The water dispenser on my fridge stops working if it decides the filter needs to be replaced. I get about ten days between the “new filter” light and when it stops working with the beeping and blinking getting progressively more annoying. Oddly enough the ice dispenser (which also uses the filter) continues to function. So it’s not a safety issue and someone apparently decided consumers would tolerate the inconvenien…

What brand of fridge uses DRM? Asking to avoid them entirely
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