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Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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I'd be interested to know if this was intentional.

I can very much see that the all-in-one device has some "initializeHardware()" function that tests and sets up all the internal components, which probably requires ink to run (firing an ink jet as part of the initialization with no ink present usually burns some ink and it'll permanently clog with carbon deposits).

Likewise, I suspect if the light bulb in the scanner was faulty, it wouldn't print. Or if the chip controlling the fax functions was unresponsive, it may not scan, copy or print.

Designing a device which can self test every component, and then have a matrix of exactly which components must be present and working to do each function is very possible... but it's extra engineering effort, extra testing, and an extra source of bugs.

For example, if an ink cartridge is missing, the weight of the carriage will be different, which will need different motor control parameters to ensure the movement speed is suitable (they're DC motors, so require quite complex control algorithms to move at a close-to-constant rate across the page).

Overall, it might not be Canon management requiring this behaviour, but rather the engineering teams deciding that all these corner cases are not worth the effort of supporting.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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post #5

We need an open source printer

Actually, they don't need to be opensource. Having free firmware or being a simple machine to obey is enough. There are good printers listed on h-node. People mock fsf ryf certification but I think it is very much valid.

Re: Canon sued for disabling scanner when printers run out of ink

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To me it is a reminder that all cornerstones of society are entangled in this battle for rights and freedoms, others include

Sideloading on iOS, alternative app stores etc

Farmers getting access to diagnostics for their tractors

Not having to buy subscription-ink (looking at HP here...)

Standardized charging systems (USB-C) over proprietary cables like Lightning.

Amazon fighting the definition of a library - they mostly stock books and have a weaker digital loaning system, Amazon has a vested interest here.

I'm not sure why - as a global species - there's not more effort to tighten up the rules in this regard. We know business are user-hostile when considering greater profits and we see this daily, yet only now does the EU consider, in another 3 years, that a single cable might be a good idea to reduce waste.

We really need more open access to the hardware and software of products on the market, and certain behaviors should not just be illegal, but require a maximum month-long turnaround to producing a commit that fixes the problem or face automatic daily fines until it is fixed and rolled out to all customers.

Seriously, I suspect this could be fixed by most people on this forum very quickly.

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