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Is my Facebook activity fucking my finances?

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Re: Is my Facebook activity fucking my finances?

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>Credit scores aren't perfect, but at least they're based on information relevant to the question at hand: whether you could repay a loan.

Well if other (non-financial) things are correlated, how are they not relevant? Should we actively hide information from loan providers, making loans more expensive for others to "protect"( I say protect with quotes, because really it is just a naked handout to people) a few? If these models are wrong, that is just a business opportunity for others to fix and price loans better.

I support privacy laws, but that argument has always seemed to be a strange way to argue for it.

Re: Is my Facebook activity fucking my finances?

#13

I would like a more specific, a much more specific, example of a bank rejecting a loan applicant based on their google search history as the article implies.

Is this really far fetched? Did you not see what Biden is proposing? Anyone with more than $600 in their bank accounts will have their transactions monitored. They will be mining that data asap.

Re: Is my Facebook activity fucking my finances?

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There's many terrible data brokers involved in many terrible things (especially in the US - they generally get zero headlines because they are b2b and rather secretive), so it's strange to have this headline be about Facebook, when they're the only company being discussed that doesn't sell your data (even if they do many other things with it that we may not like!). I know it's very fun to use them as the worst possib…

Also, Facebook and other big tech companies are way less likely to get hacked thanks to more established data handling practices. Breaches still occasionally happen, but you're more likely to see data breaches from these data broker companies because they didn't secure their elasticsearch DBs or something dumb like that.

> Also, Facebook and other big tech companies are way less likely to get hacked thanks to more established data handling practices.

Well, historically, bad actors haven't needed to "hack" Facebook because it has made it possible for them to access user data without hacking.

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/09/986005820/after-data-breach-e...

> In response to the reporting, Facebook said in a blog post on Tuesday that "malicious actors" had scraped the data by exploiting a vulnerability in a now-defunct feature on the platform that allowed users to find each other by phone number.

It's not a vulnerability, it's a "feature".

Re: Is my Facebook activity fucking my finances?

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There's many terrible data brokers involved in many terrible things (especially in the US - they generally get zero headlines because they are b2b and rather secretive), so it's strange to have this headline be about Facebook, when they're the only company being discussed that doesn't sell your data (even if they do many other things with it that we may not like!). I know it's very fun to use them as the worst possib…

Also, Facebook and other big tech companies are way less likely to get hacked thanks to more established data handling practices. Breaches still occasionally happen, but you're more likely to see data breaches from these data broker companies because they didn't secure their elasticsearch DBs or something dumb like that.

Granted it’s old news, but you mean like the founder and employees stalking profiles of those they were interested in during the early days?

Re: Is my Facebook activity fucking my finances?

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There's many terrible data brokers involved in many terrible things (especially in the US - they generally get zero headlines because they are b2b and rather secretive), so it's strange to have this headline be about Facebook, when they're the only company being discussed that doesn't sell your data (even if they do many other things with it that we may not like!). I know it's very fun to use them as the worst possib…

"so it's strange to have this headline be about Facebook, when they're the only company being discussed that doesn't sell your data"

Are we talking about the same Facebook? The mob with some bloke called Zuck are hell bent on selling ads. They absolutely use you.

Re: Is my Facebook activity fucking my finances?

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There's many terrible data brokers involved in many terrible things (especially in the US - they generally get zero headlines because they are b2b and rather secretive), so it's strange to have this headline be about Facebook, when they're the only company being discussed that doesn't sell your data (even if they do many other things with it that we may not like!). I know it's very fun to use them as the worst possib…

"so it's strange to have this headline be about Facebook, when they're the only company being discussed that doesn't sell your data" Are we talking about the same Facebook? The mob with some bloke called Zuck are hell bent on selling ads. They absolutely use you.

They don’t sell the data. It’s in the FB walled garden.

Re: Is my Facebook activity fucking my finances?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"so it's strange to have this headline be about Facebook, when they're the only company being discussed that doesn't sell your data" Are we talking about the same Facebook? The mob with some bloke called Zuck are hell bent on selling ads. They absolutely use you.

They don’t sell the data. It’s in the FB walled garden.

You and your mates appear to have invented a new financial system, which involves walls.

Please explain 8)

Re: Is my Facebook activity fucking my finances?

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>Credit scores aren't perfect, but at least they're based on information relevant to the question at hand: whether you could repay a loan. Well if other (non-financial) things are correlated, how are they not relevant? Should we actively hide information from loan providers, making loans more expensive for others to "protect"( I say protect with quotes, because really it is just a naked handout to people) a few? If t…

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