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Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?

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Post by Ndymium »

merlinscholz wrote: post #44
lmkg wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vivaldi is pretty pro-privacy. Every time Chromium adds a new API with privacy implications, Vivaldi makes a blog post publicly committing to disable or remove it from the version they ship. E.g. the most recent update, the headline feature is disabling the Idle API by default: https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-gets-more-private-delivers-... They also had a pretty long post about why FLOC is bad, and I believe have co…

Sadly, as long as they are closed source, there is no way to check their privacy guarantee.

You can find the source at https://vivaldi.com/source/ and in addition to that is the HTML/JS UI which can be found in the installed browser data (though as minified JS files).

Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?

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Post by bluecatswim »

chaosite wrote: post #52
bluecatswim wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, Firefox android is impossible to use if you do anything non-trivial and has so many quirks. It's been over a year since the rewrite so I don't know what they're doing.

This has not been my experience. Firefox Android is perfectly functional, fast, and blocks ads too.

It's "functional" but has too many caveats that make it a pain to use on a daily basis. Like, tabs don't update while in the background, it keeps killing tabs after some time, scrolling on some sites is a mess because the navbar gets fucked and starts covering half the page for some reason, when certain HTML elements are too close to a hyperlink you can't click on them, etc. These are all things that worked fine on version 68 and before.

Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?

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Post by mLuby »

Vivaldi's business model was primarily Patreon.

He also had a steady side hustle teaching music and composing for the local orphanage's renowned orchestra and choir. #SoPure

Vivaldi first went viral with his album "The Harmonic Inspiration." He'd regularly dedicate his content to his top-tier subscribers, among them celebrities and members of the 1%. His best-known work, the chart-topping "Four Seasons," is considered classic even to this day.

@TheRedPriest (as Vivaldi was known) was censored for airing LGBT content and was cancelled by his employer; luckily both situations were quickly reversed in his favor.

While Vivaldi undoubtedly became an influencer (of J.S. Bach in particular), during his life he often wasn't trending with the right demographics. One time he had to sell NFT-equivalents of his work at the market low just to move back to Vienna. Shortly thereafter his lead investor got cold feet and went belly up; without financial support, Vivaldi soon died poor.

Edit: whoops name collision my bad.

Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?

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Post by hrnnnnnn »

chaosite wrote: post #52
bluecatswim wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, Firefox android is impossible to use if you do anything non-trivial and has so many quirks. It's been over a year since the rewrite so I don't know what they're doing.

This has not been my experience. Firefox Android is perfectly functional, fast, and blocks ads too.

I wonder if it's the amount of memory on my phone then. The thing is, the old version of FF didn't do this, and neither does the current version of Vivaldi.

Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?

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Post by amazing_stories »

bsdooby wrote: post #63

I still use and like Opera. Vivaldi feels a bit bloated. On the other hand, some features of Vivaldi are really cool (RSS, mail client).

I used to like Opera for the built-in mail client but had always used Firefox out of principal. I've grown weary of FF's shenanigans and once I discovered Vivaldi had a mail/rss/calendar/notes built-in I jumped on it and I can't see myself using anything else, ever. I like having everything all in one monolithic app.

Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?

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Post by yread »

mLuby wrote: post #64

Vivaldi's business model was primarily Patreon. He also had a steady side hustle teaching music and composing for the local orphanage's renowned orchestra and choir. #SoPure Vivaldi first went viral with his album "The Harmonic Inspiration." He'd regularly dedicate his content to his top-tier subscribers, among them celebrities and members of the 1%. His best-known work, the chart-topping "Four Seasons," is considere…

You haven't told us whether Google was involved

Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?

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Post by bsdooby »

amazing_stories wrote: post #66
bsdooby wrote: post #63

I still use and like Opera. Vivaldi feels a bit bloated. On the other hand, some features of Vivaldi are really cool (RSS, mail client).

I used to like Opera for the built-in mail client but had always used Firefox out of principal. I've grown weary of FF's shenanigans and once I discovered Vivaldi had a mail/rss/calendar/notes built-in I jumped on it and I can't see myself using anything else, ever. I like having everything all in one monolithic app.

Yeah, agree. What I like in the current installment of Opera are its built-in WhatsApp, Telegram clients.

Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?

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Post by stonecharioteer »

mLuby wrote: post #64

Vivaldi's business model was primarily Patreon. He also had a steady side hustle teaching music and composing for the local orphanage's renowned orchestra and choir. #SoPure Vivaldi first went viral with his album "The Harmonic Inspiration." He'd regularly dedicate his content to his top-tier subscribers, among them celebrities and members of the 1%. His best-known work, the chart-topping "Four Seasons," is considere…

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