PinePhone Pro Announced

Post by Klasiaster » Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 5:06 PM UTC

131012 wrote: post #93

jjmellon wrote: post #17

I received a Pinephone in the latest shipment, about three weeks ago. I also got the convergence dock to be able to attach a monitor, keyboard and mouse. I am extremely motivated to get off Android on my phone, and yet my Pinephone has already been discarded (and I never even put a SIM card in it). There are far too many out-of-the-box bugs and glitches to consider this a usable product. For example, the convergence…

A basic but very important question: can it phone and send/receive text message reliably? Smartphones are so bloated with functionalities, it seems nobody ever talks about that. I don't see the answer on the website.

Post by phero_cnstrcts » Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 5:10 PM UTC

prox wrote: post #148

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #117

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I largely agree with the assessment. I am still glad I bought mine, because even though it is gathering dust, I am hoping the purchase contributed somewhat to a better mobile future. I may have mentioned it before, but default OS is just painful to use ( thankfully, there are other options ). And here is the part of the problem. I am motivated to use it. Right now it still feels so janky, most people won't even get p…

I think the message / take away is : developers, developers, developers. Something that quickly evolves by the shared power of a lot of minds. If you are buying it, toss it away and don’t contribute, this will hamper future succes.

Post by Klasiaster » Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 5:13 PM UTC

guerrilla wrote: post #92

Klasiaster wrote: post #34

For me the main pain point of the current PinePhone is not its performance, it's the driver and firmware issues. Mainline Linux does not work well with the current PinePhone and various patches are not upstreamed or not even written yet to fix the remaining bugs. The cameras don't work with most software, the out-of-tree WiFi driver has stability issues to the point where I rather use LTE or USB, the USB-C firmware i…

I think your expectations may not be aligned with what they're selling. From the website: > We’re not in the business of selling empty promises – a much faster mainline Linux smartphone won’t make the existing operating systems more refined, nor will it magically spawn software replacements for your iOS or Android applications. There is a long road ahead of us, all of us, and it will require time and effort for the s…

Post by busymom0 » Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 5:16 PM UTC

cammikebrown wrote: post #139

smokelegend wrote: post #133

4GB mem.....? Really 4GB? That's it? Would it really have been that bad to at least offer a 8GB, 16GB, or 32GB Memory upgrade. Just feels like a huge let down. I get it the price of electronics(i.e. memory) is more expensive, but this makes it look like a joke in comparison with other "phones". And if it were marketed as a mini computer 4GB of ram isn't saying much. Hexacore processor, 128GB Emmc storage awesome but…

My iPhone 12 (4 GB RAM) is usually faster than my Windows PC (16 GB, Ryzen 2600).

Post by Klasiaster » Fri, Oct 15, 2021, 5:17 PM UTC

megous wrote: post #118

Klasiaster wrote: post #34

For me the main pain point of the current PinePhone is not its performance, it's the driver and firmware issues. Mainline Linux does not work well with the current PinePhone and various patches are not upstreamed or not even written yet to fix the remaining bugs. The cameras don't work with most software, the out-of-tree WiFi driver has stability issues to the point where I rather use LTE or USB, the USB-C firmware i…

Wifi is different, with mainline driver and regularly updated firmware from cypress (same as Rpi4 wifi chip). Type-C stuff is different, more sane. Main camera is different and selected to already have mainline linux support... I don't think this complaint is fair. Only major thing that's the same is the modem, but that would be quite annoying thing to change, because it would void the hard work of people working on…