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Launch HN: Inflow (YC S21) – Self-help app for people with ADHD

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> The average cost of an in-person ADHD CBT session in the US is $200-300 Is that real? Or the average cost in a city like NYC? My partner has been looking for this in the UK, and the cost is under half this (so long as you're not looking for a big-name London clinic)

I believe it's not outside the expected range for therapy services in the US. How much the patient pays depends on what their insurance will cover.

Re: Launch HN: Inflow (YC S21) – Self-help app for people with ADHD

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One thing I've wanted in an app is some kind of organized quick way to do "where did i put that?" and "did I try this food option before and did I like it or not?" My main concern with any app is remembering to use it. I have a dozen or so alarms, and todo lists, and I still forget to check them. Beyond some push notification, what ways can your app help me remember to use it to make it a habit?

you might want to try Notion or Evernote something like that; externalised memory is generally served by note-taking apps. Roam is also good, if you don't like organising your notes hierarchically. Remembering to use it is not an issue of memory, but of habituation; there are decent habit-tracking apps like habitica to help with that. Of course, the first habit you'll want to build is the habit of using a habit track…

I was diagnosed with ADHD last year after suspecting it for some time. I used Notion for this exact reason, but ended up switching to Obsidian with much more success. Notion is a great app and I even had a pro subscription for a while, but the number of widgets and options and different ways of doing things made it too distracting for me.

Re: Launch HN: Inflow (YC S21) – Self-help app for people with ADHD

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Many of the reviews of the Android app are quite critical of the trial and payment model, for example: > CAUTION: After the free trial period (7 days), they will charge for an annual subscription ($102.95 US). This is OPT OUT, not opt in. In other reviews they say they will offer a refund (I will update when/if I get one) but for an app for people with executive function issues, an opt out format seems shady. Either…

I mean, reading the description, it's hard not to get a little concerned: "a start up that's going to try to make money off of folks with ADHD" isn't a great starting place.

I think this is sort of a broader start-up problem. Some things shouldn't be monetized (period, but for the sake of the audience, I'll add: at least not as aggressively as is required for a start-up).

Re: Launch HN: Inflow (YC S21) – Self-help app for people with ADHD

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post #27

> The average cost of an in-person ADHD CBT session in the US is $200-300 Is that real? Or the average cost in a city like NYC? My partner has been looking for this in the UK, and the cost is under half this (so long as you're not looking for a big-name London clinic)

The cash prices in the US have gone up significantly since telehealth gained regulatory support and patient adoption after pandemic related lockdowns started. To the point of Inflow, they are offering both an alternative and supplement to this kind of care.

Context: I helped build and launch CareDash’s telehealth marketplace, which serves the large national players in mental health in the US.

Re: Launch HN: Inflow (YC S21) – Self-help app for people with ADHD

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I wish you luck! I have the opposite issue. I'm ... what do you call it? neurodiverse (at one time, I was an "aspie"), and I can actually get locked into a fugue, so strong, that hours go by like minutes. In the aggregate, it has worked out OK. I'm a damn good programmer (but a total nerd). I do have family that have suffered from ADHD, and hope that your app may be helpful.

"Neurodiverse" is an umbrella term that covers a handful of things, including both ADHD and Autism Spectrum Disorder. What used to be Asperger's is now just one point along the autism spectrum. So you'd still be classified as neurodiverse if you had ADHD instead of being somewhere under the sub-umbrella ASD.

Re: Launch HN: Inflow (YC S21) – Self-help app for people with ADHD

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Many of the reviews of the Android app are quite critical of the trial and payment model, for example: > CAUTION: After the free trial period (7 days), they will charge for an annual subscription ($102.95 US). This is OPT OUT, not opt in. In other reviews they say they will offer a refund (I will update when/if I get one) but for an app for people with executive function issues, an opt out format seems shady. Either…

As someone with ADHD, I can confirm this model is super predatory. I cancel all my credit cards every year just to get rid of all opt-in charges on regular basis

Billing an entire annual subscription up front, as opposed to monthly, seems especially questionable. What if the therapy doesn't work? What if it's so badly implemented that it can't work? You're still out a hundred bucks just the same, and that's just in the first year.

edit: There is also a monthly subscription option, in the Apple app store at least. It's $22 a month - so over twice as much as the annual. This does not give me to think the product here is less sketchy. And the Psy.D founder, Sachs, is a pretty blatant self-promoter of the sort endemic to the ADD/ADHD "coaching" space, if unusually well qualified by that standard: https://sachscenter.com/adult-child-psychiatrist-psychologis...

Perhaps it's less of a surprise than I initially found it that the account posting this Launch HN has thus far had nothing further to say.

also edit: Sachs is a Psy.D, not an MD. Granted, this does entitle him to "Dr." as a term of address, just as would a doctorate in physics, ancient history, or underwater basket-weaving. But, just as with any of those, it doesn't qualify him as a doctor in the generally understood sense. Again, this gives one reasonably to question, and the questions thus raised are ones for which well-prepared founders may reasonably be expected to provide compelling answers.

Re: Launch HN: Inflow (YC S21) – Self-help app for people with ADHD

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hyperfocus is actually one of the odd trades of ADHD. If people with ADHD work on a topic that motivates them, they can easily loose hours just like you describe. However, if the task is too mundane or overwhelming, I can easily procrastinate months on them.

^ This. As a 45 year old recently diagnosed with ADHD, I realize how much of my life was described by things like this. The more I learn about ADD/ADHD, the more sense I make to myself.

Same. Some jobs I was hailed as a 10x programmer. Others I was worthless. Or even same company but different projects.

Pair programming was a massive benefit as it kept me on task all day.

Being bored was a physical pain for me. Meds took that pain away. Even after I stopped meds I was much improved as I no longer had that pain Association with boredom. Jus regular tendency to get distracted easily.

Re: Launch HN: Inflow (YC S21) – Self-help app for people with ADHD

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Many of the reviews of the Android app are quite critical of the trial and payment model, for example: > CAUTION: After the free trial period (7 days), they will charge for an annual subscription ($102.95 US). This is OPT OUT, not opt in. In other reviews they say they will offer a refund (I will update when/if I get one) but for an app for people with executive function issues, an opt out format seems shady. Either…

yeah, this really undermines the credibility of the app. I really hope that they address this.
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