What’s Vivaldi’s business model?
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What’s Vivaldi’s business model?
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#2I've been trying to think about whether this is good enough for me to move to Vivaldi. I wish they offered a direct plan where I'd pay per month to use a browser with no ads, no telemetry, etc. The incentives would be aligned and there'd be no weaselry with them loading up new releases with bookmarks populated with their sponsors or whatever, and me deleting them.
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#3I don't really know Vivaldi. They mention that they do not track you, but do they make some effort to avoid being tracked by others?
For example: firefox reduces the timestamp precision on your mouse events to prevent fingerprinting
Does Vivaldi do something similar?
Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?
#4I don't really know Vivaldi. They mention that they do not track you, but do they make some effort to avoid being tracked by others? For example: firefox reduces the timestamp precision on your mouse events to prevent fingerprinting Does Vivaldi do something similar?
> For example: firefox reduces the timestamp precision on your mouse events to prevent fingerprinting
... while sending all URLs you visit to google for "safe browsing".
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#5I've tried Vivaldi on all my devices for several months but it has several annoying quirks:
- Videos are jerky compared to Chrome. It doesn't matter if hardware acceleration is on or off, and it's at least on macOs and Windows.
- Scrolling is either slow (if hardware acceleration is off) or shows a blank page as you scroll (if hardware acceleration is on). Chrome works fine with hardware acceleration.
- Caching is weird. Often it would show me an old version of a page, and I have to refresh to get the latest version. For example at some point it shown me a version of a Docker Hub page that was 2 months old. The same often happens on GitHub too (I think it has something to do with caching pages that are fetched via JS). Happens on both mobile and desktop. Never seen this problem on Chrome.
As a result I just went back to Chrome. I don't like the tracking and all, but at the end of the day I need basic features like loading pages, playing videos or scrolling to work. In fact, I'm surprised they don't simply try to use Chromimum more closely - they probably add a layer of "optimisations" which only creates more bugs than it's worth.
Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?
#6I don't really know Vivaldi. They mention that they do not track you, but do they make some effort to avoid being tracked by others? For example: firefox reduces the timestamp precision on your mouse events to prevent fingerprinting Does Vivaldi do something similar?
> For example: firefox reduces the timestamp precision on your mouse events to prevent fingerprinting ... while sending all URLs you visit to google for "safe browsing".
I always find it funny when they accuse people who point out glaring flaws and obvious truths of whataboutism. People should freely point out incongruences and hypocrisy. There is no better way to fix things, or at least to be buyer aware.
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#7I don't really know Vivaldi. They mention that they do not track you, but do they make some effort to avoid being tracked by others? For example: firefox reduces the timestamp precision on your mouse events to prevent fingerprinting Does Vivaldi do something similar?
> For example: firefox reduces the timestamp precision on your mouse events to prevent fingerprinting ... while sending all URLs you visit to google for "safe browsing".
Does it happen even if Google isn't the default search engine? If yes, where do I disable it?
Depending on your answer, this might be the last straw in my relationship with FF.
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#8I don't really know Vivaldi. They mention that they do not track you, but do they make some effort to avoid being tracked by others? For example: firefox reduces the timestamp precision on your mouse events to prevent fingerprinting Does Vivaldi do something similar?
> For example: firefox reduces the timestamp precision on your mouse events to prevent fingerprinting ... while sending all URLs you visit to google for "safe browsing".
I thought that they downloaded the list and checked locally (ref https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/how-safe-browsing-works-...). Has this been changed recently?
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#9Vivaldi is my default chromium based browser right now. Firefox still be the default browser, however there are many site offering extra features for Chrome based browser. For example the video filter in Google meet doesn't work on Firefox.
The amount of customization is no joke, i love this feeling of being truly power user.
Re: What’s Vivaldi’s business model?
#10I've been trying to think about whether this is good enough for me to move to Vivaldi. I wish they offered a direct plan where I'd pay per month to use a browser with no ads, no telemetry, etc. The incentives would be aligned and there'd be no weaselry with them loading up new releases with bookmarks populated with their sponsors or whatever, and me deleting them.
Vivaldi adds a new sponsor bookmark around every six months.