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Presumably when it is shown beyond a reasonable doubt that they conspired or deliberately overlooked the fraud. The prosecutor has every incentive to get participants to roll over and follow the conspiracy as high up the ladder as it goes. Successfully prosecuting such a large profile case, particularly with defendants with very little public sympathy, would make his/her career.
>The prosecutor has every incentive to get participants to roll over and follow the conspiracy as high up the ladder as it goes. This is naivette. See this: https://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/lead-boeing-... From the article: the case was settled with a deferred prosecution agreement — an agreement that Columbia Law Professor John Coffee at the time called — “one of the worst deferred prosecution agreeme…
Former Boeing 737 Max Chief Technical Pilot Indicted for Fraud
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#212It is important to note that Boeing settled for 2.5 billion in which it is agreed that "...the misconduct by its former employees was “neither pervasive across the organization, nor undertaken by a large number of employees, nor facilitated by senior management". ( https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-reaches-2-5-billion-sett... ). So remember, when push comes to shove, the technical lead always gets thrown to the wol…
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I reported them to OSHA and to the state health authority. This was a while ago. I got reminded of it today and posted the story because I had a call this week asking me to send in written testimony in addition to the form I filled out. Wrongful termination is a no-go. I talked to a literal slew of lawyers. The amount I'd be looking to recover would be probably the cost of court. Also chump change compared to my over…
I’ve worked in healthcareIT and the biggest diagnostics firm and yes: the more they speak about meaningful job and patient first the bigger the facade that in reality it is about their money and their career. I would be curious to know from your learnings where you think engineers/product people should head to be fullfilled in such environments as I am starting to be clueless. Thanks
You can do delivery for stuff medical companies buy (delivery/residencies/support) and your experience on the customer side will add big bucks to the salary the vendor pays you. Hospitals use AIX, they run EPIC on it. IBM will pay you more if you can go to hospitals that buy from them and help them set up AIX for EPIC. If you do storage like I do, those hospitals buy EMC/IBM storage, and medical applications need specific layout, path and disk group separation, etc - if you know those, EMC/IBM will pay you more. Your "customer" at this point is the IT staff at the hospital, and they're good guys and a pleasure to work with.
If you want even more money, again go for a vendor or a VAR, but do presales engineering. One downside to that, those toxic unethical managers are now your customer. But they'll pay you a lot, and you won't be asked to attempt killing people with a script by making an xray disappear from a display during surgery.
Both options are good, I've done and do both. If you work for a VAR instead of a vendor, you get the same salary as the vendor, but you also get spiffs from the vendor. I average about $5k/month in spiffs when I do presales engineering. But you feel a bit like a used car salesman - the spiffs are bigger when you sell what the vendor is pushing instead of the best solution.
So in short - all depends on how "straight-edge" you are, and how comfortable you are being around bs. the worse the smell, the more cash in your pocket unfortunately. I personally have screwed large corporations out of millions to end up with tens of thousands extra in my pocket. And that's something I don't like, but am comfortable with - as opposed to damaging individual people. If you are completely ethical, more power to you. Go work for VMware or Nasuni or something on the delivery side, tell them you know a bunch of medical applications, and they'll pay you more.
As ballpark, the current ceilings from my personal experience (storage), the total income including bonus and spiffs are: 150k delivery engineer for a vendor, 140k delivery engineer for a VAR, 180k vendor presales engineer, 200-250k pse at a VAR (because of spiffs). In cali or nyc, add about 10% to those. personal fulfillment is on the delivery side, monetary is in presales.
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What you talk about the FAA doing thier own testing and validation is (unfortunately) almost impossible. Back in the 90s, a senior FAA official (I think a Director) had said something along the lines of “The FAA does not and cannot check everything, we just see that companies are doing their tests.” The FAA would require several times more manpower to be able to actually audit or test everything, and that is assuming…
I don't think this style of regulation is limited to FAA. FDA does not independently test all drugs either. They just review and ensure the drug companies' tests are acceptable.
The FDA very carefully reviews the submissions, requires validation of tests and safeguards so data can't easily be manipulated. But the system is built on trust. If a company wants to manipulate, fake or exclude negative data they can. They'll likely get caught, but not always.
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What you talk about the FAA doing thier own testing and validation is (unfortunately) almost impossible. Back in the 90s, a senior FAA official (I think a Director) had said something along the lines of “The FAA does not and cannot check everything, we just see that companies are doing their tests.” The FAA would require several times more manpower to be able to actually audit or test everything, and that is assuming…
I don't think this style of regulation is limited to FAA. FDA does not independently test all drugs either. They just review and ensure the drug companies' tests are acceptable.
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I took a gig at a hospital. They got an MBA Karen with 3 years of experience. She learned the very basics of IT, then started micromanaging. As in, she'd tell you what switches to put on CLI commands. If you said that's wrong, or would cause data corruption - you're not a team player. The entire team of 18 people were not team players - the team consisted of her alone. One time, she told me to do something very dange…
"The fish smells from the head" - turkish proverb
Re: Former Boeing 737 Max Chief Technical Pilot Indicted for Fraud
#217While I don't have any sympathy for this pilot, I also find the FAA's excuses here to be less than convincing. Basically, their position is "Well, we trusted this Boeing employee to tell us the truth about the new flight controls, and he didn't." But if the regulators had actually done their job and independently evaluated the new flight controls, they wouldn't have had to take the word of any Boeing employees. I rea…
There is also good reason to trust it, especially when it comes from a large company such as Boeing: it is stupid for such an organization to lie to you, because it risks its existence for the rather small payoff of avoiding delays for a single model.
It’s even worse for individual employees at the company: they risk jail time and aren’t even the direct beneficiary.
Example: see above
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#218Nailed for being the only guy stupid enough to write instant messages bragging about misleading the FAA. As a longtime corporate grunt, I can guess exactly how management leaned on him. He should have left and let the scumbags find another patsy to do their dirty work.
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Your comment boils down to a false dilemma fallacy between "FAA blindly trusts manufacturers" and "FAA conducts their own testing and validation." Clearly they could have been more actively reviewing stuff coming from Boeing, or engaging in some level of auditing. If the FAA had paid attention they would have seen a company desperate to compete modifying numerous basic characteristics of an airplane to the point of m…
Actually, this is a sauce effect of the complexity of modern systems: regulators have no choice but to trust companies and regulate the results of tests, with heavy penalties for cheating. Consider pharmaceutical trials: it's impractical for the FDA to check on each patient. Financial audits often assume the client isn't directly lying to the auditor, with criminal penalties as the disincentive. The alternative requi…
So why not reformulate it correctly. In my ideology, it is not possible to solve this problem.
If that ideology would be out of the way, it could actually be tested pretty good via unittest running a simulation. So once developed those tests would actually be pretty cheap to run.
Its just this ideologic blindspot that prevents good safety.
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I took a gig at a hospital. They got an MBA Karen with 3 years of experience. She learned the very basics of IT, then started micromanaging. As in, she'd tell you what switches to put on CLI commands. If you said that's wrong, or would cause data corruption - you're not a team player. The entire team of 18 people were not team players - the team consisted of her alone. One time, she told me to do something very dange…
I'm puzzled by the do not discriminate bit, doesn't that mean you do discriminate by only choosing the names you can't pronounce? Minutae aside, as a European I'm shocked and appalled at that process, but surely an employment tribunal would have been the next step? Seems open and shut if you have the details to hand and everything evidenced properly. That said I'm sure you probably didn't want to be there from that p…