Disclosure: "This study was funded in part via an unrestricted research grant from the Beef Checkoff, through the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association."
Who else is going to find a study that might show meat is good?
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Meat and mental health: Meat eaters suffer less depression, anxiety
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#82I'm not sure about the journals on food science but impact factor 11 would be good in my field (medical). I'd expect a more rigorous statistical analysis from a retrospective meta-study.
Re: Meat and mental health: Meat eaters suffer less depression, anxiety
#83How much faith do you have in nutrition science? How sure are you that they know all the vitamins, fatty acids, amino acids, etc that are important to your health? We know for sure that there are vitamins that it is pretty much impossible to get with a normal vegan diet (without either taking a supplement or consciously consuming certain foods to supplement) such as vitamin B-12. Other minerals such as iron are more…
Vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria but can be obtained through meat and animal products. Historically we got plenty through unsterilized water as well. It is really the only required supplementation for vegans.
If you are into the science you may like NutritionFacts.org - Dr. Greger goes DEEP into the studies and science. I'm pretty sure he's done a video on forms of iron.
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#84I'd say the first big thing to highlight is that correlation is not causation - you wouldn't want someone to take this study as proof that eating meat makes you less depressed. I would imagine that vegans (in particular vegans who chose their diet on ethical grounds) are overall more concerned about the state of the world around them - or are at least subjected to more of an echo-chamber effect from their peers - whi…
On the other hand, correlation is a consequence of causation. Pragmatically one can reach a plausible conclusion, despite a lack of positive verification. In my own experience, I can conclusively report that a high quality steak definitely improves my mood. Causation of emotional states is bafflingly complex, so it could be some hidden cause, but to my senses it's just that eating delicious meat feels good.
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#85Being able to hunt for your meat helps a lot with anxiety and mental health.
I’ll be able to provide for my family when things get crazy here soon. Will you be ready?
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Many (most?) meat eaters are deficient in nutrients their body needs. The USDA found that only about 3% of people get their daily recommended amount of fiber. Eating meat doesn’t mean you get what your body needs
Fiber is a funny choice because it's good for digestive health, but by definition, is food content you body has no interest in.
Yeah, it's for the gut biome. Eating many different kinds of fiber is great for biodiversity in the gut. Dr. Rhonda Patrick has some great videos about this, as well as the effect of sugar on gut bacteria.
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BS - the steak you didn’t eat yesterday doesn’t resurrect the cow, it just gets eaten by someone else.
So what about the meat that gets thrown out when no one buys it, causing the stores to order less, causing the CAFOs to grow fewer head of cattle? The economics-101 concept of "supply and demand" would like a word with you...
The OP didn’t say it’s the best thing a society can do, he said it’s the best a PERSON can do. One person deciding not to eat meat will not fix the climate crisis.
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I would reverse the causation. People become vegans because they are highly empathetic and emotionally driven - this personality type also is more susceptible to anxiety and depression
Not necessarily. I was a localvore before I went vegetarian, and the place where I got my chickens, pork, lamb and beef was ~10 miles from my house. (I live in a hipster city.) I did this because I liked meeting my animals and watching them be butchered. (Industrial meat production is wildly, horrifically cruel by comparison.) Now I'm vegetarian because meat is just too effing expensive when purchased ethically. I ca…
> soy curls
TVP, yeah? That stuff is magic, easily my favourite protein source. I can make dishes that blow people away with it
Re: Meat and mental health: Meat eaters suffer less depression, anxiety
#89Disclosure: "This study was funded in part via an unrestricted research grant from the Beef Checkoff, through the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association."
Wow, this should definitely be in the title.
If it was:
"National Cattlemen’s Beef Association funded study: Meat eaters suffer less depression, anxiety"
It would not have made it to the front page.
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It is easy to lack some vitamins or nutrients while going on a vegan diet. Some of them have an impact on mental health. Unless you are very comited into calculating your intake in every mineral and vitamin, I would recommend to take some supplements if you are going vegan (which is something I support but did not totally go through yet)
Do you have any specific vitamins/nutrients in mind that have relevant mental health impacts? Ones that meat diets get, but vegan/vegetarian diets don't? From what I can tell, meat eaters are even less likely than vegans to calculate their nutritional intake (naturally so, vegans are much more likely to read ingredient and nutrient lists because how else can you shop vegan?), and the claim that it's easy to not have…
B12 is the only one that is commonly talked about needing to be supplemented as a vegan; though in Australia if you consume Soy milk, you likely already get enough as it is fortified with it.
B12 deficiency can have quite profound neurological effects, though thats in pretty severe cases, IIRC